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Last Ditch Innovation: The Development of the Gerat 06 and Gerat 06H Rifles

Filed under: Germany, History, Military, Weapons, WW2 — Tags: , , , — Nicholas @ 02:00

Forgotten Weapons
Published 19 Nov 2012

I’m very happy today to present a video we did in cooperation with Oleg Volk, which I’ve titled “Last Ditch Innovation”. It is a look at two late-WW2 German prototype rifles which are the evolutionary grandparents of the CETME and the H&K series of roller-delayed firearms (91, 93, MP5, etc). Thanks to some very generous friends, we have examples of both guns to disassemble and shoot … so sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.

From the comments:

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
The G3 has to be bigger, because it uses a bigger cartridge. That means a longer bolt, longer recoil travel, longer receiver, heavier trunnion, etc.

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
Yep, that is the anti-bounce spring. In the HK, it’s far stronger than necessary.

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
Sort of – the 06H was tentatively named the StG45(M). There were other StG45 designs from different companies, though.

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
Actually, I think the .45 lasted so long because the US military viewed the handgun as an actual combat weapon, where for a long time (and perhaps still) European nations saw them more as a badge of rank.

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
No, German paratroops had the FG42 instead.

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
He designed and built his own high speed camera, actually. It used a rotating set of mirrors, but beyond that I’m not sure exactly how it worked.

@ForgottenWeapons
10 years ago
Basically, because Germany was barred from arms development after WW2. Russia, and the eastern bloc with them, developed the 7.62×39 (which was created at the same time the Germans were developing the 8×33). The US and NATO stayed with a full size cartridge because of American military conservatism.

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