{"id":99423,"date":"2025-12-04T03:00:01","date_gmt":"2025-12-04T08:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=99423"},"modified":"2025-12-03T10:51:27","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T15:51:27","slug":"dont-put-a-lot-of-trust-in-the-surging-canadian-gdp-stories-theyre-pushing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2025\/12\/04\/dont-put-a-lot-of-trust-in-the-surging-canadian-gdp-stories-theyre-pushing\/","title":{"rendered":"Don&#8217;t put a lot of trust in the &#8220;surging Canadian GDP stories&#8221; they&#8217;re pushing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On the social media site formerly known as <em>Twitter<\/em>, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/StephenPunwasi\/status\/1996214383932735695\" target=\"_blank\">Stephen Punwasi<\/a> put together an interesting thread on the latest &#8220;rosy scenario&#8221; GDP numbers the state media have been making such a big deal about:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-49-41-Stephen-Punwasi-\ud83c\udfda\ufe0f\ud83d\udcc9\ud83d\udc08\u2603\ufe0f-on-X-\ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6-who-wants-a-funny-GDP-story.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right; padding: 0px 0px 10px 25px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-49-41-Stephen-Punwasi-\ud83c\udfda\ufe0f\ud83d\udcc9\ud83d\udc08\u2603\ufe0f-on-X-\ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6-who-wants-a-funny-GDP-story-480x310.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"310\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-99426\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-49-41-Stephen-Punwasi-\ud83c\udfda\ufe0f\ud83d\udcc9\ud83d\udc08\u2603\ufe0f-on-X-\ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6-who-wants-a-funny-GDP-story-480x310.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-49-41-Stephen-Punwasi-\ud83c\udfda\ufe0f\ud83d\udcc9\ud83d\udc08\u2603\ufe0f-on-X-\ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6-who-wants-a-funny-GDP-story-150x97.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-49-41-Stephen-Punwasi-\ud83c\udfda\ufe0f\ud83d\udcc9\ud83d\udc08\u2603\ufe0f-on-X-\ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6-who-wants-a-funny-GDP-story.png 598w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>2\/ What do we see? Imports contributed 0.7 points out of 0.6 points of Q3 GDP growth. The rest of the economy was a net drag.<\/p>\n<p>Imports contribute to GDP as a part of net exports: exports minus imports. <\/p>\n<p>Smaller imports boost net exports. Imports made the biggest drop since 2022.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>3\/ What we&#8217;re seeing is a phenomenon called import compression: the balance was boosted by falling imports.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a superficial improvement due accounting mechanics. The only growth is actually weakness. <\/p>\n<p>We figured it out. But wait \u2014 how do they get import\/export data?  \ud83d\ude2c<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>4\/ Let&#8217;s start with imports. I recalled reading about the CBSA&#8217;s new customs &#038; revenue management (CARM) platform. <\/p>\n<p>Totally normal bedtime reading for weirdos, I know.<\/p>\n<p>CARM delayed data to StatCan, who had to estimate on trend &#038; revise. I can&#8217;t recall the issue being resolved.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>4\/ I contact StatCan. Delays have improved but recent data is heavily impacted.<\/p>\n<p>They warn to expect larger than usual revisions to September \u2014 a third of Q3. \ud83d\ude05 <\/p>\n<p>It gets funnier: \ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\uddf8&#8217;s gov shutdown means \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6 can&#8217;t get data for ~75% of its exports. Trend estimate again.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>5\/ so all GDP growth was imports, which fell faster than exports.<\/p>\n<p>Imports &#038; exports are estimates based on trend.<\/p>\n<p>But wait \u2014 what exactly is a trend? It&#8217;s based on seasonal adjustments \u2014 smoothing predictable variation.<\/p>\n<p>In \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6, that means suppressing summer &#038; boosting winter.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>6\/ non-predictable variations to consumption like recession &#038; trade wars can&#8217;t be filtered out.<\/p>\n<p>The adjustment over\/understates. e.g. \ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\uddf8 Fed research shows this overstated recovery &#038; lengthened the financial crisis. Ditto with COVID. <\/p>\n<p>It can&#8217;t be fixed until years later.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>7\/  let&#8217;s put this together: <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6&#8217;s GDP grew exclusively due to the trade balance. <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; import compression \u2014 a weakness that overstates growth<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; trade had to be inferred via trend<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; trend overstated by irregular shock <\/p>\n<p>Yup.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>8\/ just to clarify \u2014 none of this is StatCan&#8217;s fault. <\/p>\n<p>They&#8217;re tasked w\/a deadline over the past year &#038; \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6 decided to overhaul its trade data during a trade war. <\/p>\n<p>They told me Dec 11th will be when revisions for imports come in &#038; we&#8217;ll get an update on CARM.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>9\/ Bonus fun facts for the pros: <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; by pushing it back to the 11th, this overstatement helps suppress yields for the GoC cash management program <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; the 11th is after the last auction data is provided to dealers<\/p>\n<p>Fascinating combo while \ud83c\udde8\ud83c\udde6 is asset cycling for short-term optics.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>10\/ anyway, full write up, direct quotes from StatCan, &#038; a fun bonus GDP fact for the kiddos. <\/p>\n<p>Also, follow <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/BetterDwelling\/status\/1994556668223398191\" target=\"_blank\">@BetterDwelling<\/a> if you found this interesting. <\/p>\n<p>We take research &#038; insights reserved for deep-pocketed investors &#038; give it away to normies w\/plain english explanations.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/BetterDwelling\/status\/1994556668223398191\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-48-03-Better-Dwelling-on-X-Canadian-GDP-Surged-Entirely-Due-To-Superficial-Accounting-Mechanics.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"598\" height=\"594\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-99424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-48-03-Better-Dwelling-on-X-Canadian-GDP-Surged-Entirely-Due-To-Superficial-Accounting-Mechanics.png 598w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-48-03-Better-Dwelling-on-X-Canadian-GDP-Surged-Entirely-Due-To-Superficial-Accounting-Mechanics-480x477.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-48-03-Better-Dwelling-on-X-Canadian-GDP-Surged-Entirely-Due-To-Superficial-Accounting-Mechanics-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-48-03-Better-Dwelling-on-X-Canadian-GDP-Surged-Entirely-Due-To-Superficial-Accounting-Mechanics-120x120.png 120w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Screenshot-2025-12-04-at-10-48-03-Better-Dwelling-on-X-Canadian-GDP-Surged-Entirely-Due-To-Superficial-Accounting-Mechanics-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 598px) 100vw, 598px\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the social media site formerly known as Twitter, Stephen Punwasi put together an interesting thread on the latest &#8220;rosy scenario&#8221; GDP numbers the state media have been making such a big deal about: 2\/ What do we see? Imports contributed 0.7 points out of 0.6 points of Q3 GDP growth. 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