{"id":9910,"date":"2011-06-18T00:08:53","date_gmt":"2011-06-18T04:08:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=9910"},"modified":"2011-08-09T11:23:48","modified_gmt":"2011-08-09T15:23:48","slug":"is-it-right-to-name-and-shame-the-vancouver-fans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2011\/06\/18\/is-it-right-to-name-and-shame-the-vancouver-fans\/","title":{"rendered":"Is it right to name and shame the Vancouver &#8220;fans&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ken at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.popehat.com\/2011\/06\/17\/the-vancouver-riots-and-the-modern-consequences-of-bad-behavior\/\" target=\"_blank\">Popehat<\/a> discusses the charges that outing the misbehaving fans on Facebook is somehow &#8220;vigilantism&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong><em>Vigilantism<\/em><\/strong>: Exposing people to the social consequences of their misbehavior is not vigilantism. Subjecting them to physical danger is. That\u2019s why decent people involved in this process don\u2019t post home addresses or phone numbers, and delete them when they are posted.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Proportionality<\/em><\/strong>: The proportionality argument is at least somewhat misguided. First of all, bad behavior doesn\u2019t go viral on the internet unless it\u2019s <em>really notable<\/em>. Garden-variety assholes don\u2019t get top Google ranking. You\u2019ve got to be somewhat epic to draw this modern infamy &mdash; by, say, being a water polo star on a scholarship trying to torch a cop car because your hockey team lost. Second, lack of proportionality is self-correcting. If conduct is actually <em>just not that bad<\/em>, then future readers who Google a bad actor\u2019s name will review the evidence and say \u201cmeh, that\u2019s not so bad. Everyone acts up now and then.\u201d Saying that bad behavior should not be easily accessible on the internet is an appeal for enforced ignorance, a request for a news blackout. It\u2019s saying, in effect, <em>I\u2019m more wise and measured than all the future people who might read about this; they can\u2019t be trusted to evaluate this person\u2019s actions in the right light, like I can.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u201cThey Just Made A Mistake\u201d<\/em><\/strong>: The argument that bad actors shouldn\u2019t become infamous because they \u201cjust made a mistake\u201d is a riff on proportionality. The same criticisms apply: it takes a hell of a mistake to go viral, and future viewers can make up their own minds. Plus, this argument is often sheer bullshit. Trying to torch a cop car because your hockey team lost is not a mere <em>faux pas<\/em>; normal and decent people don\u2019t do it. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ken at Popehat discusses the charges that outing the misbehaving fans on Facebook is somehow &#8220;vigilantism&#8221;: Vigilantism: Exposing people to the social consequences of their misbehavior is not vigilantism. Subjecting them to physical danger is. That\u2019s why decent people involved in this process don\u2019t post home addresses or phone numbers, and delete them when they [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,9,10,15],"tags":[343,391,267,742,593],"class_list":["post-9910","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cancon","category-law","category-liberty","category-technology","tag-crimeandpunishment","tag-facebook","tag-justice","tag-rioting","tag-socialmedia"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-2zQ","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9910","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9910"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9910\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10598,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9910\/revisions\/10598"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9910"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9910"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9910"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}