{"id":98989,"date":"2026-02-11T01:00:41","date_gmt":"2026-02-11T06:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=98989"},"modified":"2026-02-10T10:25:44","modified_gmt":"2026-02-10T15:25:44","slug":"qotd-delusional-takes-there-are-no-white-people-in-the-bible","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2026\/02\/11\/qotd-delusional-takes-there-are-no-white-people-in-the-bible\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: Delusional takes – “There are no white people in the Bible”"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>[Responding to an image posted here<\/a>.]<\/p>\n

Oh boy, I get to post more Damned Facts that will offend people who richly deserve to be offended. <\/p>\n

There were lots of white people in the Bible. And you don’t need to get into any definitional questions about the genetics of ancient Judea, either.<\/p>\n

Greeks and Romans were white — that is, pale-skinned Caucasians. We know this from art, from sequenced genomes, and from contemporary descriptions of what they looked like. Herodotus described the Pontic Greeks as being blonde and blue-eyed.<\/p>\n

Here’s the really Damned Fact: brownness in Mediterranean European populations was a late development. Post-Classical. Caused by …<\/p>\n

… the Islamic invasions, post 722 CE. Resulted in Europeans of the Mediterranean coast becoming admixed (to put it very, very diplomatically) with Arabs and Africans. That’s why there’s a really noticeable gradient in Italy between lighter-skinned Northerners and darker-skinned Southerners; it’s all about how long various regions were under Islamic domination. <\/p>\n

The question that usually comes up is, was Jesus himself “white”?<\/p>\n

It’s possible. We can’t go by the artistic evidence, because Byzantine art deliberately confused Jesus with stylized depictions of the Emperor in his glory (there’s a really famous example of this in the Hagia Sophia<\/em> in Constantinople). And those Greek emperors may well have been depicted as a bit blonder and more blue-eyed than they actually were, because that was considered beautiful. Dashboard Jesus is a late polyp of this tradition.<\/p>\n

But until we find actual genetic material we’re not going to know. Imperial-run Palestine was a swirling cauldron of different ethnic groups, and the genetic boundaries didn’t necessarily match up neatly with the religious ones. Knowing that his parents were part of the Jewish people doesn’t necessarily help much.<\/p>\n

The two most likely cases are that Jesus looked like a current-day city Arab, or he looked like a Philistine — that is, Greek with some local admixture; a lot of coastal Lebanese still look like that today. But full-bore pasty-skinned Euro can’t be ruled out.<\/p>\n

ESR, The social media site formerly known as Twitter<\/em><\/a>, 2025-11-10.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

[Responding to an image posted here.] Oh boy, I get to post more Damned Facts that will offend people who richly deserve to be offended. There were lots of white people in the Bible. And you don’t need to get into any definitional questions about the genetics of ancient Judea, either. Greeks and Romans were […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,339,370,41,11],"tags":[1527,360,1235,827,47,1343],"class_list":["post-98989","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-history","category-italy","category-middle-east","category-quotations","category-religion","tag-ancientgreece","tag-christianity","tag-esr","tag-genetics","tag-islam","tag-romanempire"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-pKB","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98989","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=98989"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98989\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":100795,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98989\/revisions\/100795"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=98989"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=98989"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=98989"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}