{"id":98477,"date":"2026-01-16T01:00:08","date_gmt":"2026-01-16T06:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=98477"},"modified":"2026-01-17T09:23:34","modified_gmt":"2026-01-17T14:23:34","slug":"qotd-another-unintended-consequence-of-conscription","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2026\/01\/16\/qotd-another-unintended-consequence-of-conscription\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: Another unintended consequence of conscription"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left; padding: 0px 25px 10px 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-48672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>From 1948 to 1963 (which is when the very last left the forces) Britain had National Service. Two years in the forces and damn near everyone was in the Army. It&#8217;s the only period of peacetime conscription we&#8217;ve ever had. It was also the only period of near universal conscription we&#8217;ve ever had. Public schoolboys generally became officers, a portion of grammar school lads too. Everyone else got to be a private.<\/p>\n<p>The big social revolution started in the mid-1960s and had really taken root by 1980. I don&#8217;t mean drugs and shagging around I mean a proper social revolution. The British working classes no longer took what they were being told by the poshoes as being true. Questions, as we might put it, were being asked.<\/p>\n<p>My theory, backed up by reality and all the obvious facts of the case, is that as all young men had spent two years being run by the poshoes up front and directly therefore no one believed the poshoes any more. Actual experience, see?<\/p>\n<p>National Service led to the downfall of the posh classes. Simply because direct exposure to said posh was always going to do that.<\/p>\n<p>This is not just a <em>jeu d&#8217;esprit<\/em>. I really do insist that Britain&#8217;s social revolution was driven by conscription. Being told to jump by some chinless 6 months out of Eton is going to do that. <\/p>\n<p>Tim Worstall, <a href=\"https:\/\/timworstall.substack.com\/p\/national-service-led-to-the-uppity\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;National Service Led To The Uppity Proles Of the 1960s&#8221;, <em>It&#8217;s all obvious or trivial except &#8230;<\/em><\/a>, 2025-10-14.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Update, 17 January<\/strong>: Welcome, <em>Instapundit<\/em> readers! Have a look around at some of my other posts you may find of interest. I send out a daily summary of posts here through my <em>Substack<\/em> \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/@nicholasrusson\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/substack.com\/@nicholasrusson<\/a> that you can subscribe to if you&#8217;d like to be informed of new posts in the future.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From 1948 to 1963 (which is when the very last left the forces) Britain had National Service. Two years in the forces and damn near everyone was in the Army. It&#8217;s the only period of peacetime conscription we&#8217;ve ever had. It was also the only period of near universal conscription we&#8217;ve ever had. 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