{"id":97162,"date":"2025-08-16T05:00:05","date_gmt":"2025-08-16T09:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=97162"},"modified":"2025-08-15T20:10:02","modified_gmt":"2025-08-16T00:10:02","slug":"this-is-just-crazy-enough-to-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2025\/08\/16\/this-is-just-crazy-enough-to-work\/","title":{"rendered":"This is just crazy enough to work &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;m not an American and I don&#8217;t know the details of the US immigration system, but from what I&#8217;ve read elsewhere, <a href=\"https:\/\/alwaysthehorizon.substack.com\/p\/get-a-job-and-disrupt-the-h1b-for\" target=\"_blank\">Copernican<\/a>&#8216;s suggestion has a lot of merit:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right; padding: 0px 0px 10px 25px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025-480x370.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"370\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-97163\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025-480x370.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025-830x640.png 830w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025-150x116.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025-768x592.png 768w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/US-labor-force-participation-seasonally-adjusted-2005-2025.png 1400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I can&#8217;t be the only one sick of H1Bs destroying the western labor market, particularly in tech, but across the board. Out-of-work tech workers further compress the labor market in other areas. This problem is not unique to the United States, but I understand the laws of the US better, so I&#8217;ll be arguing from that perspective.<\/p>\n<p>I know it. <a href=\"https:\/\/open.substack.com\/users\/200997205-walt-bismarck\" target=\"_blank\">Walt Bismarck<\/a> has a whole organization dedicated to trying to find reasonable employment by job-stacking. A few new and interesting resources have appeared, dedicated to screwing with these companies that open the floodgates to a horde of foreign software engineers. Seven-eleven clerks, and SAAR YOU MUST REDEEMs, that can crash our software, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-us-canada-69011124\" target=\"_blank\">our ships<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newindiaabroad.com\/english\/news\/indian-truck-driver-from-haryana-dies-during-a-road-accident-in-the-united-states-of-america\" target=\"_blank\">our interstate semi-trucks<\/a> for us.<\/p>\n<p>Fortunately, there&#8217;s something we can do to fight back. <\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Well, while the government doesn&#8217;t seem intent on doing anything about it, the Millennials and Zoomers that have been fucked-over appear to finally have enough cultural weight to start pushing back. Here&#8217;s the thing about hiring H1B workers: doing so requires that the company <strong><em>demonstrate<\/em><\/strong> that no American Citizens can fulfill the role. That demonstration usually takes the form of a listing in a newspaper with 500 readers, the back-end of a website with black text on a black background, or something similar. They don&#8217;t <strong><em>want<\/em><\/strong> Americans to apply for these jobs; they want to successfully demonstrate that no Americans even applied.<\/p>\n<p>So they make the application process nearly impossible.<\/p>\n<p>Usually, the way this is done is that when an H1B is hired, they are permitted to remain in the country for up to 6 years (2 renewals of 2 years). Once that&#8217;s completed, either the H1B worker is forced to return to where they came from, or the job must be re-posted for 2 weeks for a potential American worker. If no American worker applies (because they didn&#8217;t see it because it was posted in a hidden corern of the website or a newspaper with no readers), then the H1B may be sponsored for perminent US residency.<\/p>\n<p>What was clearly once a method for gaining the Best and Brightest as potential employees in the United States has become a system of exploitation. H1Bs are underpaid, undervalued, and often booted from the country, so there&#8217;s no impetus for them to assimilate. It&#8217;s a mess all the way around, and the only ones who benefit are stockholders for billion-dollar tech companies.<\/p>\n<p>For the most part, we all know the story.<\/p>\n<p>But &#8230; what if during that 2-week posting, a qualified American candidate <strong><em>does<\/em><\/strong> apply for the job? Well, then everything goes to shit. The company is legally not allowed to deny an American Candidate that job without opening themselves up to a <strong><em>massive<\/em><\/strong> lawsuit and fines, and penalties. If only one American candidate has applied, then the company <strong><em>has<\/em><\/strong> to hire that individual &#8230; and if they don&#8217;t hire the American candidate and then apply for <strong><em>another<\/em><\/strong> H1B to fill that slot, the company is in deep shit in a legal sense.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;m not an American and I don&#8217;t know the details of the US immigration system, but from what I&#8217;ve read elsewhere, Copernican&#8216;s suggestion has a lot of merit: I can&#8217;t be the only one sick of H1Bs destroying the western labor market, particularly in tech, but across the board. 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