{"id":96860,"date":"2025-07-30T03:00:41","date_gmt":"2025-07-30T07:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=96860"},"modified":"2025-07-29T12:57:54","modified_gmt":"2025-07-29T16:57:54","slug":"the-worst-thing-that-can-happen-to-a-good-cause-is-not-to-be-skilfully-attacked-but-to-be-ineptly-defended","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2025\/07\/30\/the-worst-thing-that-can-happen-to-a-good-cause-is-not-to-be-skilfully-attacked-but-to-be-ineptly-defended\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skilfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On Substack, <a href=\"https:\/\/becomingnoble.substack.com\/p\/those-who-hate-men\" target=\"_blank\">Johann Kurtz<\/a> provides a great example of Bastiat&#8217;s insight (quoted in the title), as debaters ineptly defend the whole notion of masculinity, particularly how boys are victimized for being boys:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_53520\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/End-toxic-masculinity-by-labnusantara-CC-BY-NC-ND-2.0.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-53520\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/End-toxic-masculinity-by-labnusantara-CC-BY-NC-ND-2.0-450x600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"600\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-53520\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/End-toxic-masculinity-by-labnusantara-CC-BY-NC-ND-2.0-450x600.jpg 450w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/End-toxic-masculinity-by-labnusantara-CC-BY-NC-ND-2.0-480x640.jpg 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/End-toxic-masculinity-by-labnusantara-CC-BY-NC-ND-2.0-113x150.jpg 113w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/End-toxic-masculinity-by-labnusantara-CC-BY-NC-ND-2.0.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-53520\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;End Toxic Masculinity&#8221; by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/158260210@N02\">labnusantara<\/a> is licensed under <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/2.0\/?ref=ccsearch&#038;atype=html\" style=\"margin-right: 5px;\">CC BY-NC-ND 2.0<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/2.0\/?ref=ccsearch&#038;atype=html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" style=\"display: inline-block;white-space: none;margin-top: 2px;margin-left: 3px;height: 22px !important;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: inherit;margin-right: 3px;display: inline-block;\" src=\"https:\/\/search.creativecommons.org\/static\/img\/cc_icon.svg\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: inherit;margin-right: 3px;display: inline-block;\" src=\"https:\/\/search.creativecommons.org\/static\/img\/cc-by_icon.svg\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: inherit;margin-right: 3px;display: inline-block;\" src=\"https:\/\/search.creativecommons.org\/static\/img\/cc-nc_icon.svg\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: inherit;margin-right: 3px;display: inline-block;\" src=\"https:\/\/search.creativecommons.org\/static\/img\/cc-nd_icon.svg\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p>We&#8217;re failing our boys.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.equimundo.org\/resources\/state-of-american-men\/\" target=\"_blank\">Two-thirds of young men<\/a> feel that &#8220;no one really knows&#8221; them. Their real wages <a href=\"https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/crs-product\/R45090\" target=\"_blank\">have been falling<\/a> since the 1970s. They&#8217;re <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2024\/09\/21\/why-more-men-are-dropping-out-of-the-workforce.html\" target=\"_blank\">dropping out<\/a> of education and the workforce in growing numbers. They die deaths of despair at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jec.senate.gov\/public\/index.cfm\/republicans\/2019\/9\/long-term-trends-in-deaths-of-despair\" target=\"_blank\">almost three times the rate<\/a> of women. Even their physical strength <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/wonk\/wp\/2016\/08\/15\/todays-men-are-nowhere-near-as-strong-as-their-dads-were-researchers-say\/\" target=\"_blank\">is collapsing<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Terrible solutions are proposed. No matter how much traditional masculinity is undermined, powerful voices continue to insist that the real problem is that it hasn&#8217;t been destroyed altogether. &#8220;Only then will boys be happy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>My thesis for this series is that there is a need to defend true masculinity on its own terms, not on the implicit terms of progressives who either don&#8217;t understand it or actively hate it.<\/p>\n<p>Take, for example, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=1Iq0ZXgdtvI\" target=\"_blank\">this debate<\/a> at the Oxford Union on traditional masculinity. The opening argument of the opposition &mdash; who are supposed to be defending <em>traditional<\/em> masculinity &mdash; starts with asserting the need for a &#8220;<em>contemporary and inclusive<\/em>&#8221; masculinity which is accessible to anyone &#8220;<em>of any race, sexuality, or other identity<\/em>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>The best defence that this speaker can mount on this anaemic foundation is an argument that masculinity is useful for <em>activism<\/em> and <em>community building<\/em> like the &#8220;Movember Foundation&#8221;. After this slightly pathetic case she goes back to conceding &#8220;<em>being forced to conform to a set of expectations is uncomfortable and even dangerous. We should allow people to access the gender expressions that make them feel like their truest self<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=H8WyAHc1v0Y\" target=\"_blank\">next speaker<\/a> for the defence of traditional masculinity continues the grovelling: &#8220;<em>In 2019, you know, we should not be honouring and obeying men &mdash; those times have gone<\/em>.&#8221; This talk is a little better &mdash; you get the sense that he actually likes men, and notes that it&#8217;s overwhelmingly men who die in wars and dangerous jobs &mdash; before collapsing back at the end: &#8220;<em>We should look at new ways of being a man. I would love to get more men involved in teaching, in nursing &mdash; make it &#8216;cool to care&#8217;. I&#8217;ve been around Scandinavia talking to stay-at-home dads &#8230; These are progressive, beautiful men<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The final speaker &mdash; who, again, is supposed to be <em>defending traditional masculinity<\/em> &mdash; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YHQqaDgNaZU\" target=\"_blank\">takes the stage<\/a> and begins: &#8220;<em>Some of the most beautiful moments I&#8217;ve watched in young men&#8217;s lives are when we&#8217;re alone in a room &mdash; and maybe a brother who&#8217;s been struggling with his sexuality comes out in front of a hundred other brothers, and he&#8217;s crying, and his other brothers are crying with him<\/em>&#8220;. You can imagine the rest.<\/p>\n<p>None of this has anything to do with traditional masculinity. In this series I will advocate for the cultivation in boys of all of the aspects of masculinity that these &#8220;advocates&#8221; were afraid to defend: strength, aggression, dominance, stoicism, and risk-taking.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Substack, Johann Kurtz provides a great example of Bastiat&#8217;s insight (quoted in the title), as debaters ineptly defend the whole notion of masculinity, particularly how boys are victimized for being boys: We&#8217;re failing our boys. Two-thirds of young men feel that &#8220;no one really knows&#8221; them. 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