{"id":94401,"date":"2025-07-16T02:00:45","date_gmt":"2025-07-16T06:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=94401"},"modified":"2025-02-28T18:19:01","modified_gmt":"2025-02-28T23:19:01","slug":"german-sten-copy-mp-3008-aka-gerat-neumunster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2025\/07\/16\/german-sten-copy-mp-3008-aka-gerat-neumunster\/","title":{"rendered":"German Sten Copy: MP-3008, aka <em>Ger\u00e4t Neum\u00fcnster<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"854\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0eDkGAAPA2E?si=q0CBGo1kg1Px_uOD\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Forgotten Weapons<\/strong><br \/>\nPublished 4 Feb 2016<\/p>\n<p>The MP 3008, aka Ger\u00e4t Neum\u00fcnster, was one of two German efforts to copy the British Sten gun. The first was the <em>Ger\u00e4t Potsdam<\/em> (&#8220;<em>ger\u00e4t<\/em>&#8221; meaning device or project; basically project code name), which was a direct copy of the Sten distinguishable only by a marking details and a few differences in manufacturing processes. While 10,000 of those were being manufactured by Mauser, R&#038;D engineer Ludwig Vorgrimmler was simplifying the Sten design even farther, resulting in the MP-3008.<\/p>\n<p>This simplified design did away with the Sten&#8217;s barrel shroud, and used a vertical magazine well instead of the Sten&#8217;s distinctive horizontal mounting. These were the significant changes, although there was also a sling loop placed on the front of the magazine well and a few minor simplifications to the fire control parts. Unlike the Potsdam, significant variation can be found in the MP-3008 in the details of stock and grip design.<\/p>\n<p>In a masterpiece of insane optimism, German official placed an order for literally a million MP-3008 submachine guns, which of course was completely insane. Manufacture was undertaken at a wide scattering of small shops, with guns being assembled by larger manufacturers from supplied parts. The total made is not known, but is probably in the range of 3000-5000. Some are marked with manufacturing codes from recognized factories, some with codes unknown, and some have no marking at all. This particular example is dewat made by &#8220;TJK&#8221; &mdash; an unknown factory.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Forgotten Weapons Published 4 Feb 2016 The MP 3008, aka Ger\u00e4t Neum\u00fcnster, was one of two German efforts to copy the British Sten gun. 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