{"id":92361,"date":"2024-11-12T04:00:49","date_gmt":"2024-11-12T09:00:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=92361"},"modified":"2024-11-11T14:33:08","modified_gmt":"2024-11-11T19:33:08","slug":"nice-business-ya-got-there-patreon-wouldnt-want-anything-to-happen-to-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2024\/11\/12\/nice-business-ya-got-there-patreon-wouldnt-want-anything-to-happen-to-it\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Nice business ya got there, Patreon. Wouldn&#8217;t want anything to happen to it &#8230;&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Above the paywall, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.honest-broker.com\/p\/the-war-against-indie-creators-is\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ted Gioia<\/a> discusses Apple&#8217;s latest attempt to cut itself a nice big middleman&#8217;s slice of the indy creator market by putting the thumbscrews to Patreon:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Patreon-logo-2023.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right; padding: 0px 0px 10px 25px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Patreon-logo-2023-480x80.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"80\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-92362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Patreon-logo-2023-480x80.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Patreon-logo-2023-150x25.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Patreon-logo-2023-768x128.png 768w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Patreon-logo-2023.png 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Can Apple really charge a 30% tax on indie creators?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What Apple is now doing to indie creators is pure evil \u2014 but this story has received very little coverage. Journalists should pay attention, because they are under threat themselves.<\/p>\n<p>Apple is now putting the squeeze on Patreon, a platform that supports more than a quarter of a million creators \u2014 artists, writers, musicians, podcasters, videographers, etc.<\/p>\n<p>These freelancers rely on the support of more than 8 million patrons through Patreon, which charges a small 8-12% fee. Many of these supporters pay via Patreon&#8217;s iPhone app.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this year, Apple insisted that Patreon must pay them a 30% commission on all new subscriptions made with the app. In other words, Apple wants to take away close to a third of the income for indie creators \u2014 almost quadrupling their transaction fees.<\/p>\n<p>This is the new business model from Cupertino, and it feels like a Mafia shakedown. Apple will make more from Patreon than Patreon does itself.<\/p>\n<p>The only way for indies to avoid this surcharge is by convincing supporters to pay in some other way, and not use an iPhone or Apple tablet.<\/p>\n<p>This is what happens when Apple decides to treat a transaction as an &#8220;in app payment&#8221; \u2014 as if an artist&#8217;s entire vocation is no different than a make-believe token in a fantasy video game.<\/p>\n<p>But you can easily imagine how almost anything you do with your phone could be subject to similar demands.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been very critical of Apple in recent months. But this is the most shameful thing they have ever done to the creative community. A company that once bragged how it supported artistry now actively works to punish it. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Above the paywall, Ted Gioia discusses Apple&#8217;s latest attempt to cut itself a nice big middleman&#8217;s slice of the indy creator market by putting the thumbscrews to Patreon: Can Apple really charge a 30% tax on indie creators? What Apple is now doing to indie creators is pure evil \u2014 but this story has received [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[831,28,13],"tags":[160,102,707,27,200,134],"class_list":["post-92361","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-business","category-media","category-usa","tag-apple","tag-art","tag-crowdsourcing","tag-iphone","tag-music","tag-writing"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-o1H","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/92361","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=92361"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/92361\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":92364,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/92361\/revisions\/92364"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=92361"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=92361"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=92361"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}