{"id":90815,"date":"2024-08-04T03:00:45","date_gmt":"2024-08-04T07:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=90815"},"modified":"2024-08-03T15:34:03","modified_gmt":"2024-08-03T19:34:03","slug":"generation-loss-in-the-game-telephone-and-in-real-life","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2024\/08\/04\/generation-loss-in-the-game-telephone-and-in-real-life\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Generation loss&#8221; in the game <em>Telephone<\/em> &#8230; and in real life"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.honest-broker.com\/p\/how-to-know-if-youre-living-in-a\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ted Gioia<\/a> explains how you can tell if you&#8217;re living in what he calls a &#8220;doom loop&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You might have played an old party game called <em>Telephone<\/em> \u2014 in which people sit in a circle, and whisper a simple phrase from ear to ear.<\/p>\n<p>By the time the information has moved around the entire circle, the words have changed. That&#8217;s because people mishear and misinterpret.<\/p>\n<p>So when a game of <em>Telephone<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/globalgossipgame.com\/2012\/11\/15\/the-final-results\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">was played in 2012 with 237 individuals<\/a>, the starting phrase was: &#8220;Life must be lived by play&#8221; (a quote from Plato). But when it reached the end of the circle, the words had turned into: &#8220;He bites snails&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s how it progressed:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/A-game-of-Telephone-involving-237-participants-Ted-Gioia.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/A-game-of-Telephone-involving-237-participants-Ted-Gioia.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"728\" height=\"382\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-90816\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/A-game-of-Telephone-involving-237-participants-Ted-Gioia.png 728w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/A-game-of-Telephone-involving-237-participants-Ted-Gioia-480x252.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/A-game-of-Telephone-involving-237-participants-Ted-Gioia-150x79.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 728px) 100vw, 728px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In other instances, people have started with the phrase &#8220;Only the good die young&#8221; and end up with &#8220;The three Vikings visit Christ&#8221;. Or &#8220;Today the library is hot&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/globalgossipgame.com\/2013\/11\/26\/global-gossip-game-2013-final-results\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">somehow morphs into &#8220;Sharon Stone is my girlfriend&#8221;<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps a degree of wish fulfillment enters into the game. Or as my mother used to say: &#8220;People hear what they want to hear&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a technical term for this process. It&#8217;s called <em>generation loss<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>It has nothing to do with a lost generation \u2014 which is how Gertrude Stein described the Jazz Age. She famously told Ernest Hemingway: &#8220;You are all a lost generation&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not talking about those kinds of generations. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Gertrude-Stein-Lost-Generation.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Gertrude-Stein-Lost-Generation.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"728\" height=\"384\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-90817\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Gertrude-Stein-Lost-Generation.png 728w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Gertrude-Stein-Lost-Generation-480x253.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/Gertrude-Stein-Lost-Generation-150x79.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 728px) 100vw, 728px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The <em>generation loss<\/em> we&#8217;re dealing with here refers to deteriorating data quality when a signal is repeated over and over again.<\/p>\n<p>Each time it&#8217;s generated, the information gets a little more corrupted.<\/p>\n<p>And it&#8217;s not just hearing that leads us astray. You can also measure generation loss if you make a photocopy of a photocopy. Each time you do it, the quality of the image gets worse. If you do it enough times, you can&#8217;t recognize what was in the original.<\/p>\n<p>Even digital data \u2014 which is supposedly copied and pasted with perfection \u2014 deteriorates with each repetition.<\/p>\n<p>Photos that are shared from account to account on Instagram get worse over time. In one experiment, a photo that was copied and reposted 90 times <a href=\"https:\/\/petapixel.com\/2015\/02\/11\/experiment-shows-happens-repost-photo-instagram-90-times\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">gradually turned into an unrecognizable blur<\/a>. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ted Gioia explains how you can tell if you&#8217;re living in what he calls a &#8220;doom loop&#8221;: You might have played an old party game called Telephone \u2014 in which people sit in a circle, and whisper a simple phrase from ear to ear. 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