{"id":87274,"date":"2024-05-12T01:00:27","date_gmt":"2024-05-12T05:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=87274"},"modified":"2024-05-11T09:48:38","modified_gmt":"2024-05-11T13:48:38","slug":"qotd-what-is-putins-endgame-in-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2024\/05\/12\/qotd-what-is-putins-endgame-in-ukraine\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: What is Putin&#8217;s endgame in Ukraine?"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left; padding: 0px 25px 10px 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-48672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>It would appear that Putin, Xi, etc. are coming to see themselves as the leaders in a worldwide battle against <em>Juggalisme<\/em>. That might be wishcasting \u2014 they are practical men, after all, and let me state, unequivocally and for the record, that I do NOT want to be ruled by Russians or Chinese. They are not my people. Nonetheless, it does seem clear they understand that the source of their problems is beyond what we think of as geopolitics. The United States is &#8220;agreement incapable&#8221;, as I guess the <em>term d&#8217;art<\/em> is, because it&#8217;s not rational, or even predictably irrational.<\/p>\n<p>That was the monarchist critique of representative government that hit closest to home: Foreign policy needs to be supple and responsive; it must be able to move quickly, to make big changes in narrow time windows. In a real crisis, you simply don&#8217;t have time to convene a Parliament to debate stuff. N.b. they were saying this in the late 18th century; it&#8217;s so much worse now. And another observation from that time that is even truer today: A &#8220;democratic&#8221; foreign policy can never be consistent. You simply can&#8217;t plan long-term when there&#8217;s partial to complete governmental overhaul every few years.<\/p>\n<p>That the US managed to muddle through for as long as it did was really a combo of two things: time (as a function of distance), and a near-peer enemy.<\/p>\n<p>Neither of those is integral to the system, and neither is within the system&#8217;s control. Until recently, American foreign policy had to take into account the fact that on-the-spot commanders would have to make decisions on their own recognizance. Even with phone communications, the man on the ground in the Fulda Gap has to make decisions basically without reference to Washington. It forced him to be conservative \u2014 in other words, it discouraged adventurism.<\/p>\n<p>Same way with the near-peer enemy. The looming shadow of the USSR forced regular reality checks inside the US <em>Apparat<\/em>. A whole bunch of possibilities were foreclosed by default \u2014 our response to any given situation had to take the likely Soviet reaction into account. As with the time\/distance factor, this forced a kind of conservatism that looked a lot like sclerosis, but at least it deterred adventurism.<\/p>\n<p>The history of the later 20th century is the history of those constraints being removed. In Vietnam, for instance, you had LBJ and McNamara sitting in a room in the White House, personally directing airstrikes in near-realtime. If &#8220;news&#8221; reports are to be believed, Obama was on the horn with that SEAL team going after Bin Laden right up to the very moment the chopper landed. Knowing these things are technically possible is catnip to politicians \u2014 they <em>already<\/em> assume they&#8217;re omnicompetent, and so now they want to be &#8220;advising&#8221; the commanding general even as the battle rages.<\/p>\n<p>And if that&#8217;s catnip, then the end of the USSR was catnip on steroids. Why not play fuck-fuck games <em>everywhere<\/em>, all at once? Who&#8217;s gonna stop us? China? They chose to pass. They saw what happened to the USSR when it locked itself into an ideological death spiral <em>vis-a-vis<\/em> the Struggle Against International Capitalism. American policymakers only understand Soviet-style bluff and bluster. The Chinese play the long game.<\/p>\n<p>NOT because they&#8217;re Inscrutable Orientals, I hasten to add \u2014 they&#8217;re as <em>Juggalicious<\/em> as our Clowns, in their way \u2014 but because the generation currently in power came up hard, and so they are <em>adults<\/em>. That&#8217;s all. They are not spoiled, petulant children. The next generation of Chinese leadership \u2014 assuming we live to see it \u2014 will really be something, and not in a good way.<\/p>\n<p>So, what does Putin <em>want<\/em>? I dunno, and I&#8217;m not sure he knows, because I&#8217;m not sure he <em>can<\/em> know. I&#8217;m sure his broadest goal is &#8220;to stop getting fucked with by idiots&#8221;, but how can that be achieved? There shall be no durable peace in this world until there is Regime Change in [Washington, DC], and I&#8217;m not talking about the other half of the Uniparty winning an election or two. I think Putin knows that, but what can he really do about it? I think he&#8217;s going to be forced to annex a fair amount of territory and set up a totally demilitarized buffer zone. It won&#8217;t work, but it&#8217;s the least-worst practical option.<\/p>\n<p>Severian, <a href=\"https:\/\/foundingquestions.wordpress.com\/2024\/02\/09\/friday-mailbag-68\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Friday Mailbag&#8221;, <em>Founding Questions<\/em><\/a>, 2024-02-09.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It would appear that Putin, Xi, etc. are coming to see themselves as the leaders in a worldwide battle against Juggalisme. That might be wishcasting \u2014 they are practical men, after all, and let me state, unequivocally and for the record, that I do NOT want to be ruled by Russians or Chinese. 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