{"id":83764,"date":"2024-04-02T01:00:07","date_gmt":"2024-04-02T05:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=83764"},"modified":"2024-04-01T09:30:11","modified_gmt":"2024-04-01T13:30:11","slug":"qotd-supersizing-the-polis-roman-style","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2024\/04\/02\/qotd-supersizing-the-polis-roman-style\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: Supersizing the <em>Polis<\/em>, Roman-style"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left; padding: 0px 25px 10px 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-48672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>Discussing the Roman Republic after already looking at the normal structure of a <a href=\"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-mqO#Polis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>polis<\/em><\/a> offers an interesting vantage point. As we&#8217;ll see, the <a href=\"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-mqO#Republic\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Roman Republic<\/a> has a lot of the same features as a <em>polis<\/em>: a citizen body, magistrates, a citizen assembly, all structured around a distinct urban center and so on. On the other hand, as we&#8217;re going to see, the Romans have some different ideas about the <em>res publica<\/em> (that&#8217;s their phrase which gives us our word &#8220;republic&#8221;). They <em>imagine<\/em> the republic differently than a <em>polis<\/em> and that leads to some meaningful differences in its structure and nature, even though it seems to share a lot of &#8220;DNA&#8221; with a <em>polis<\/em> and in some sense could be described as an &#8220;overgrown&#8221; city-state.<\/p>\n<p>Which leads into the other major difference: size. We&#8217;re going to be taking a <strong>snapshot<\/strong> of the Roman Republic, necessary because the republic changed over time. In particular what we&#8217;re going to look at here is really a snapshot of the republic as it functioned in the third and second centuries, what Roman historians call the &#8220;Middle Republic&#8221; (c. 287-91BC). Harriet Flower defines this period as part of &#8220;the republic of the <a href=\"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-mqO#Nobiles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>nobiles<\/em><\/a>&#8221; which as we&#8217;ll see is an apt title as well.<\/p>\n<p>But even by the beginning of this period, the Roman Republic is <em>enormous<\/em> by the standards of a <em>polis<\/em>. While a <em>polis<\/em> like Athens or Sparta with total populations in the low hundreds of thousands was already very large by Greek standards, the Roman Republic was <em>much<\/em> bigger. We know that in Italy in 225 there was something on the order of <em>three hundred thousand<\/em> Roman citizens liable for conscription, which implies a total citizen population right around a million. And that massive polity in turn governed perhaps another <em>two million<\/em> other Italians who were Rome&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-mqO#Socii\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>socii<\/em><\/a>&#8221; (&#8220;allies&#8221;), perhaps the social category at Rome closest to &#8220;resident foreigners&#8221; (<em>metics<\/em>) in Greek <em>poleis<\/em>. This is in Italy alone, not counting Rome&#8217;s &#8220;overseas&#8221; holdings (at that point, <a href=\"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-mqO#Sicily\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sicily<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-mqO#CorsicaEtSardinia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Corsica and Sardinia<\/a>). <strong>In short, the Roman Republic may in some ways be shaped like a <em>polis<\/em>, but it was a full order of magnitude larger than the largest <em>poleis<\/em><\/strong>, even <em>before<\/em> it acquired provinces outside of Italy. As you may imagine, that has implications!<\/p>\n<p>Bret Devereaux, <a href=\"https:\/\/acoup.blog\/2023\/07\/21\/collections-how-to-roman-republic-101-part-i-spqr\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Collections: How to Roman Republic 101, Part I: SPQR&#8221;, <em>A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry<\/em><\/a>, 2023-07-21.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Discussing the Roman Republic after already looking at the normal structure of a polis offers an interesting vantage point. As we&#8217;ll see, the Roman Republic has a lot of the same features as a polis: a citizen body, magistrates, a citizen assembly, all structured around a distinct urban center and so on. 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