{"id":83240,"date":"2023-07-02T05:00:36","date_gmt":"2023-07-02T09:00:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=83240"},"modified":"2023-06-30T13:48:06","modified_gmt":"2023-06-30T17:48:06","slug":"of-course-theyre-lying-the-interesting-thing-is-how-they-sell-the-lies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2023\/07\/02\/of-course-theyre-lying-the-interesting-thing-is-how-they-sell-the-lies\/","title":{"rendered":"<em>Of course<\/em> they&#8217;re lying &#8211; the interesting thing is <em>how<\/em> they sell the lies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In his Friday Mailbag, <a href=\"https:\/\/foundingquestions.wordpress.com\/2023\/06\/30\/friday-mailbag-44\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Severian<\/a> answers a reader question about the reports coming out of Ukraine about casualties in the recent fighting:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:right; padding: 0px 0px 10px 25px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630-480x294.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"294\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-83241\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630-480x294.jpg 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630-853x523.jpg 853w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630-150x92.jpg 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630-768x471.jpg 768w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Ukraine-situation-20230630.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Back in the worst of the covid days (so far), I often said that we&#8217;re stewing in so many obvious lies, I&#8217;m starting to question the very existence of a country called &#8220;China&#8221;. Not to mention the germ theory of disease. Is there actually a war at all in Ukraine? How do we sift and weight sources?<\/p>\n<p>My rules of thumb (two thumbs, two rules) for judging the underlying truthiness of a Media story are what I&#8217;ll call &#8220;the Goebbels factor&#8221; and &#8220;admission against interest&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;Goebbels factor&#8221; is that fellow&#8217;s well-known dictum that the best propaganda is mostly true. Outright <em>lies<\/em> \u2014 straight up, 100% false-to-facts whoppers \u2014 are actually extremely rare, even in the <acronym title=\"America In Name Only\">AINO<\/acronym> Media. This is because out-and-out lies take a tremendous amount of effort to maintain. Not only that, their <em>opportunity cost<\/em> is off the charts, because once you&#8217;ve peddled the lie, you&#8217;re stuck with that specific lie forever. You have to <em>keep<\/em> investing in the lie, and you must also keep investing in what I guess we&#8217;ll call the &#8220;information infrastructure&#8221; <em>surrounding<\/em> that lie. It&#8217;s just not cost-effective.<\/p>\n<p>The second factor \u2014 &#8220;admission against interest&#8221; \u2014 is, of course, just the second step in everyone&#8217;s favorite dance, the Media Shuffle. The first step is &#8220;That&#8217;s not happening!&#8221; The second step is &#8220;&#8230; and here&#8217;s why it&#8217;s good that it is.&#8221; Think of it as the retooling of the previous &#8220;information infrastructure.&#8221; Lies have to be supported, one way or the other. If the lie is &#8220;there&#8217;s no inflation!&#8221;, then the &#8220;information infrastructure&#8221; consists of semi-plausible (for Juggalo values of &#8220;plausible&#8221;) &#8220;explanations&#8221; of all the very obvious inflation that&#8217;s very obviously happening. You know the drill: Putin&#8217;s price hikes! Global Warming!! Systemic Racism!!!<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s much easier to flip those around, to &#8220;explain&#8221; why all those are actually good for you, than it is to keep investing in the original lie. It&#8217;s important to note \u2014 as if <em>y&#8217;all<\/em> need the reminder! \u2014 that the &#8220;admission against interest&#8221; is ALSO chock full of lies; you have to cross check the new lies against the old lies to reach an approximation of the truth (the discipline known as FNG-ology; the practitioners of which are <em>stoyakniks<\/em>).<\/p>\n<p>Given all that: Yeah, the war in Ukraine is real, and the Ukrainians really are getting keestered. My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people, who did nothing to deserve it, and I only ask that you remember who did this to you: Brandon and the Juggalos. It&#8217;s ALL on them. Putin really had no choice.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In his Friday Mailbag, Severian answers a reader question about the reports coming out of Ukraine about casualties in the recent fighting: Back in the worst of the covid days (so far), I often said that we&#8217;re stewing in so many obvious lies, I&#8217;m starting to question the very existence of a country called &#8220;China&#8221;. 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