{"id":79023,"date":"2022-12-31T03:00:10","date_gmt":"2022-12-31T08:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=79023"},"modified":"2022-12-30T21:51:31","modified_gmt":"2022-12-31T02:51:31","slug":"if-hell-is-other-people-then-the-deepest-level-of-hell-must-be-other-high-school-students","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2022\/12\/31\/if-hell-is-other-people-then-the-deepest-level-of-hell-must-be-other-high-school-students\/","title":{"rendered":"If Hell is &#8220;other people&#8221;, then the deepest level of Hell must be &#8220;other high school students&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/tomknighton.substack.com\/p\/school-attendance-correlates-to-what\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Tom Knighton<\/a> on a recent post from FEE about the awfulness of the school experience for a lot of students:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_79024\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Leaside-High-School-by-ammiiirrrr-CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-79024\" style=\"float:right; padding: 0px 0px 10px 25px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Leaside-High-School-by-ammiiirrrr-CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0-360x640.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"640\" class=\"size-large wp-image-79024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Leaside-High-School-by-ammiiirrrr-CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0-360x640.jpg 360w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Leaside-High-School-by-ammiiirrrr-CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0-337x600.jpg 337w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Leaside-High-School-by-ammiiirrrr-CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0-84x150.jpg 84w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Leaside-High-School-by-ammiiirrrr-CC-BY-NC-SA-2.0.jpg 575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-79024\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Leaside High School entrance Toronto Ontario Canada&#8221; by <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/13905716@N05\">ammiiirrrr<\/a> is licensed under <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-sa\/2.0\/?ref=openverse\">CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/cc.svg\" style=\"height: 1em; margin-right: 0.125em; display: inline;\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/by.svg\" style=\"height: 1em; margin-right: 0.125em; display: inline;\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nc.svg\" style=\"height: 1em; margin-right: 0.125em; display: inline;\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/sa.svg\" style=\"height: 1em; margin-right: 0.125em; display: inline;\"\/><\/a>.<\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p>I was never a big fan of school. While I always thought education was important, I never liked school itself.<\/p>\n<p>Part of that was because I was the kid most likely to get picked on, but even when that wasn\u2019t happening, I still didn&#8217;t like it. Learning boring stuff while not getting to delve deeper into interesting topics just made it a chore to be endured.<\/p>\n<p>Couple with the fact that cruelty is such a part of the &#8220;educational experience&#8221;, it&#8217;s no wonder that I didn&#8217;t like it.<\/p>\n<p>Hell, even when everyone was being chill, the fact that I didn&#8217;t fit in did a number on me, including a time when I genuinely wanted to end my own life. I don&#8217;t talk about that kind of thing much, but it was a stark reality of that time.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Granted, I always chalked my difficulties at the time \u2014 and I&#8217;m much better now, I should note \u2014 with a number of things besides the structure of school itself. Mostly the fact that it was a small school, I was the weird kid, and while I had friends, I never felt like I really fit in.<\/p>\n<p>Yet I can&#8217;t rule out that the structured nature of education at the time contributed greatly to the problem.<\/p>\n<p>As noted in the original piece, the patterns for suicidal behavior in teens don&#8217;t match up with adults. That tells us that there&#8217;s something at play other than just the weather, the temperature, or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless, it raises serious questions about our schools as an environment. Teachers and administrators would tell you that they strive to create a nurturing environment for students of all ages. I&#8217;m pretty sure most of them mean it, too.<\/p>\n<p>Yet these studies suggest that they&#8217;re failing. Miserably.<\/p>\n<p>But let&#8217;s not ignore the possibility that much of this may well be because, frankly, kids can be little sociopaths. They&#8217;re mean. They&#8217;re cruel. Someone will seek out those they perceive as weak and victimize them while others get to enjoy the show, even while being glad they&#8217;re not the target.<\/p>\n<p>Then there&#8217;s the fact that it&#8217;s impossible to hide from any deficiencies you might have, including social deficiencies just as good fortune with finding romantic partners of your preferred sex and that&#8217;s going to play a role as well.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tom Knighton on a recent post from FEE about the awfulness of the school experience for a lot of students: I was never a big fan of school. While I always thought education was important, I never liked school itself. 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