{"id":77016,"date":"2022-10-05T03:00:19","date_gmt":"2022-10-05T07:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=77016"},"modified":"2022-10-04T18:35:01","modified_gmt":"2022-10-04T22:35:01","slug":"the-centre-ground-on-domestic-policy-and-public-services-is-corbynism-with-a-union-flag-on-it-and-the-word-british","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2022\/10\/05\/the-centre-ground-on-domestic-policy-and-public-services-is-corbynism-with-a-union-flag-on-it-and-the-word-british\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The centre ground on domestic policy and public services is Corbynism with a union flag on it and the word &#8216;British'&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/edwest.substack.com\/p\/in-defence-of-ideas-unpopular-with\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ed West<\/a> on the decidedly conservative cast of many British voters&#8217; core beliefs:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_45130\" style=\"width: 490px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Jeremy-Corbyn-Leader-of-the-Labour-Party-Wikimedia-Commons.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-45130\" style=\"float:right; padding: 0px 0px 10px 15px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Jeremy-Corbyn-Leader-of-the-Labour-Party-Wikimedia-Commons-480x350.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"350\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-45130\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Jeremy-Corbyn-Leader-of-the-Labour-Party-Wikimedia-Commons-480x350.jpg 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Jeremy-Corbyn-Leader-of-the-Labour-Party-Wikimedia-Commons-150x109.jpg 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Jeremy-Corbyn-Leader-of-the-Labour-Party-Wikimedia-Commons-768x560.jpg 768w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Jeremy-Corbyn-Leader-of-the-Labour-Party-Wikimedia-Commons.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-45130\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jeremy Corbyn, then-Leader of the Labour Party speaking at a Rally in Hayfield, Peak District, UK on 25th July 2018 in support of Ruth George MP.<br \/>Photo by Sophie Brown via Wikimedia Commons.<\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p>It wasn&#8217;t until I was a fairly grown up that I learned just how conservative many Labour voters were. My parents&#8217; Labour-supporting friends had mostly belonged to what Ken Livingstone called \u2018the party of the metropolitan pervert&#8217;, London types who worked in creative industries or the public sector and held ultra-liberal views (at least for the 90s). But out there in the real world there were all these Labour supporters who were even more Right-wing than my dad, whether on crime, immigration, Europe, sexual relations or pretty much any social issue. They just wanted, in Blackadder&#8217;s words, a few less fat bastards eating all the pie.<\/p>\n<p>That is pretty much where the public are now. As <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/aaronbastani\/status\/1574760931934064640\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Aaron Bastani put it<\/a>: &#8220;The centre ground on domestic policy and public services is Corbynism with a union flag on it and the word &#8216;British'&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Although Jeremy Corbyn lost decisively in 2019, many have forgotten the political lesson of the Corbyn era \u2014 that it wasn&#8217;t his economic policies that put people off, but his lack of patriotism. He came from that long line of Quaker-Unitarian radicals who have always been seen as too sympathetic to Britain&#8217;s enemies, whether it was Robespierre, Napoleon, the USSR, Irish republicans or Islamic radicals.<\/p>\n<p>Corbynomics is certainly more popular than what the current Tory Party is offering, especially that served up in the recent mini-budget, after which it could be said that things are developing not necessarily to the Government&#8217;s advantage. <\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have strong opinions on the aborted 45% tax cut; it didn&#8217;t seem very wise, or fair, but I&#8217;m not sure how drastic it was; Robert Colvile in <em>The Sunday Times<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.co.uk\/article\/there-no-turning-back-now-liz-truss-kwasi-kwarteng-comment-qmlft7hdt\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">suggests that the proposal was not as bold as people make out<\/a>. Yet it seems to be hugely unpopular, except with the <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MrHarryCole\/status\/1573254916918988800?s=20&#038;t=oxLCQJeMfZqX_BbAOHkQ9w\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Institute for Economic Affairs<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<p>But I&#8217;m not convinced that makes it bad.<\/p>\n<p>The IEA&#8217;s Kristian Niemietz has repeatedly pointed out that free-market economics is generally quite unpopular, and during the depths of the Brexit dispute he wrote a piece <a href=\"https:\/\/capx.co\/beware-the-bregalitarians\/?omhide=true&#038;utm_source=CapX+briefing&#038;utm_campaign=503cfd0172-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_07_17_COPY_02&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_term=0_b5017135a0-503cfd0172-241864165\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">opposing what he called &#8220;Bregalitarianism&#8221;<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<p><em>The Bregalitarian loves to wallow in faux-indignation every time an opponent \u2013 which can be a Remainer, but it can also just be a more cautious, less enthusiastic Brexiteer \u2013 mentions the possibility that not everyone who cast a vote on 23 June 2016 was fully aware of all the possible ramifications. &#8220;How DARE you suggest that 17.4 million voters are stupid!&#8221;, cries the Bregalitarian. &#8220;How DARE you be so patronising and insulting!&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I find this Bregalitarian rhetoric deeply disingenuous \u2013 and never more so than when free-marketeers engage in it &#8230; Here&#8217;s a little home truth: if you are a free-marketeer in Britain in 2018, you are part of a small and unpopular minority. The vast majority of the British public disagree with you on virtually everything. There is <a href=\"https:\/\/d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net\/cumulus_uploads\/document\/uufxmyd8qm\/InternalResults_170518_nationalisation_privatisation_W.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">majority support<\/a> for a (re-) nationalisation of energy companies, the railways, water and bus companies. There is majority support for <a href=\"https:\/\/iea.org.uk\/blog\/we-are-the-66-why-everybody-is-wrong-on-rent-controls\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">rent controls<\/a> and various <a href=\"https:\/\/d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net\/cumulus_uploads\/document\/uufxmyd8qm\/InternalResults_170518_nationalisation_privatisation_W.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">price controls<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>As a free-marketeer, you probably want, if not fully privatised, then at least mixed systems of healthcare and education, with much greater private sector involvement. If so, you are <a href=\"https:\/\/d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net\/cumulus_uploads\/document\/uufxmyd8qm\/InternalResults_170518_nationalisation_privatisation_W.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">almost alone<\/a> in Britain with that view. There is also majority support for a lot more <a href=\"https:\/\/lif.blob.core.windows.net\/lif\/docs\/default-source\/default-library\/1710-public-opinion-in-the-post-brexit-era-final.pdf?sfvrsn=0\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">government regulation<\/a>, a lot more government interference with private business decisions, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk\/media\/39145\/bsa34_role-of-govt_final.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">higher taxes and a larger state<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Indeed, public opinion on economic issues is quite eye-watering: <a href=\"https:\/\/yougov.co.uk\/news\/2017\/05\/19\/nationalisation-vs-privatisation-public-view\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a full 28 per cent of British adults want banks to be run by the state<\/a>, and 30 per cent even want internet providers nationalised. A quarter want <em>travel agents<\/em> nationalised.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ed West on the decidedly conservative cast of many British voters&#8217; core beliefs: It wasn&#8217;t until I was a fairly grown up that I learned just how conservative many Labour voters were. My parents&#8217; Labour-supporting friends had mostly belonged to what Ken Livingstone called \u2018the party of the metropolitan pervert&#8217;, London types who worked in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,25,28,53],"tags":[188,1090,143,661],"class_list":["post-77016","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-britain","category-economics","category-media","category-politics","tag-electionwatch","tag-jeremycorbyn","tag-labour","tag-regulation"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/favicon.png","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-k2c","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77016","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=77016"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77016\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":77017,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77016\/revisions\/77017"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=77016"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=77016"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=77016"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}