{"id":76576,"date":"2024-12-22T01:00:06","date_gmt":"2024-12-22T06:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=76576"},"modified":"2024-12-21T09:23:12","modified_gmt":"2024-12-21T14:23:12","slug":"qotd-sparta-is-terrible-and-you-are-terrible-for-liking-sparta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2024\/12\/22\/qotd-sparta-is-terrible-and-you-are-terrible-for-liking-sparta\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: “Sparta Is Terrible and You Are Terrible for Liking Sparta”"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>“This. Isn’t. Sparta.<\/a>” is, by view count, my second most read series (after the Siege of Gondor series); WordPress counts the whole series with just over 415,000 page views as I write this, with the most popular part (outside of the first one; first posts in a series always have the most views) being the one on Spartan Equality<\/a> followed by Spartan Ends<\/a> (on Spartan strategic failure). The least popular is actually the fifth part on Spartan Government<\/a>, which doesn’t bother me overmuch as that post was the one most narrowly focused on the spartiates<\/a><\/em> (though I think it also may be the most Hodkinsonian post of the bunch, we’ll come back to that in a moment) and if one draws anything out of my approach it must be that I don’t think we should be narrowly focused on the spartiates<\/em>.<\/p>\n

In the immediate moment of August, 2019 I opted to write the series \u2013 as I note at the beginning \u2013 in response to two dueling<\/a> articles in TNR<\/em> and a subsequent (now lost to the ages and only imperfectly preserved by WordPress’ tweet embedding function) Twitter debate between Nick Burns (the author of the pro-Sparta side of that duel) and myself. In practice however the basic shape of this critique had been brewing for a lot longer; it formed out of my own frustrations with seeing how Sparta was frequently taught to undergraduates: students tended to be given Plutarch’s Life of Lycurgus<\/em> (or had it described to them) with very little in the way of useful apparatus to either question his statements or \u2013 perhaps more importantly \u2013 extrapolate out the necessary conclusions if those statements were accepted. Students tended to walk away with a hazy, utopian feel about Sparta, rather than anything that resembled either of the two main scholarly “camps” about the polis<\/a><\/em> (which we’ll return to in a moment).<\/p>\n

That hazy vision in turn was continually reflected and reified in the popular image of Sparta \u2013 precisely the version of Sparta that Nick Burns was mobilizing in his essay. That’s no surprise, as the Sparta of the undergraduate material becomes what is taught when those undergrads become high school teachers, which in turn becomes the Sparta that shows up in the works of Frank Miller, Steven Pressfield and Zack Snyder. It is a reading of the sources that is at once both gullible and incomplete, accepting all of the praise without for a moment thinking about the implications; for the sake of simplicity I’m going to refer to this vision of Sparta subsequently as the “Pressfield camp”, after Steven Pressfield, the author of Gates of Fire<\/em> (1998). It has always been striking to me that for everything we are told about Spartan values and society, the actual spartiates<\/em> would have despised<\/em> nearly all of their boosters with sole exception of the praise they got from southern enslaver-planter aristocrats in the pre-Civil War United States. If there is one thing I wish I had emphasized more<\/em> in “This. Isn’t. Sparta.” it would have been to tell the average “Sparta bro” that the Spartans would have held him in contempt.<\/p>\n

And so for years I regularly joked with colleagues that I needed to make a syllabus for a course simply entitled, “Sparta Is Terrible and You Are Terrible for Liking Sparta”. Consequently the TNR<\/em> essays galvanized an effort to lay out what in my head I had framed as “The Indictment Against Sparta”. The series was thus intended to be set against the general public hagiography of Sparta and its intended audience was what I’ve heard termed the “Sparta Bro” \u2013 the person for whom the Spartans represent a positive example (indeed, often the pinnacle) of masculine achievement, often explicitly connected to roles in law enforcement, military service and physical fitness<\/a> (the regularity with which that last thing is included is striking and suggests to me the profound unseriousness of the argument). It was, of course, not intended to make a meaningful contribution to debates within the scholarship<\/em> on Sparta; that’s been going on a long time, the questions by now are very technical and so all I was doing was selecting the answers I find most persuasive from the last several decades of it (evidently I am willing to draw somewhat further back than some). In that light, I think the series holds up fairly well, though there are some critiques I want to address.<\/p>\n

One thing I will say, not that this critique has ever been made, but had I known that fellow UNC-alum Sarah E. Bond had written a very good essay for Eidolon<\/em> entitled “This is Not Sparta: Why the Modern Romance With Sparta is a Bad One<\/a>” (2018), I would have tried to come up with a different title for the series to avoid how uncomfortably close I think the two titles land to each other. I might have gone back to my first draft title of “The Indictment Against Sparta” though I suspect the gravitational pull that led to Bond’s title would have pulled in mine as well. In any case, Sarah’s essay takes a different route than mine (with more focus on reception) and is well worth reading.<\/p>\n

Bret Devereaux, “Collections: This. Isn’t. Sparta. Retrospective”, A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry<\/em><\/a>, 2022-08-19.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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