{"id":73948,"date":"2025-05-06T01:00:57","date_gmt":"2025-05-06T05:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=73948"},"modified":"2025-05-05T10:01:25","modified_gmt":"2025-05-05T14:01:25","slug":"qotd-world-war-i-shattered-the-european-notion-of-what-war-actually-was","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2025\/05\/06\/qotd-world-war-i-shattered-the-european-notion-of-what-war-actually-was\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: World War I shattered the European notion of what &#8220;war&#8221; actually was"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left; padding: 0px 25px 10px 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-48672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>Echoes of those views continue to appear in western literature until the impersonal carnage of the Western Front seem to finally snuff them out. But it isn&#8217;t that the generations and generations before 1914 had never experienced war, but that <strong>war had changed<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve actually talked before about just how <a href=\"https:\/\/acoup.blog\/2019\/10\/18\/collections-the-battlefield-after-the-battle\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><em>profoundly<\/em> our modern view of war and battle<\/a> (and battlefields) is conditioned by the experience of the first world war and the <a href=\"https:\/\/acoup.blog\/2019\/05\/24\/collections-the-siege-of-gondor-part-iii-having-fun-storming-the-city\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">vast literary production of the generation<\/a> that went through those trenches. Certainly for English (and German and French, etc.) literature, World War I seems to almost snap the tradition in half, making everything before it feel trite and washing the whole of war literature in grim tones of field grey.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, <em>that is the point<\/em>. World War I was a new kind of war that shattered the old certainties <em>born out of the old kinds of war<\/em>. It is often a mistake to assume those old certainties had been born out of some eternal peace, but while the 1800s had not seen a <em>general<\/em> European war, they had seen many wars, in the many imperial possessions of European countries, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Crimean_War\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">on the edges<\/a> of what the British or French considered &#8220;Europe&#8221; and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Franco-Prussian_War\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">also in the heart of Europe<\/a> itself (not to mention a <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">few<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/American_Civil_War\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">dust<\/a>\u2013<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ups<\/a> in the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/American_Indian_Wars\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Americas<\/a>). These were not peaceful societies confronting their first war and shocked by the experience, but very bellicose societies encountering for the first time <em>a new sort of war<\/em> and being stunned at how different it was from what they had expected, from the wars of their (recent!) past.<\/p>\n<p>All of which is to say <strong>war<\/strong>, <strong><em>war really does change<\/em><\/strong>. And warriors with it.<\/p>\n<p>Bret Devereaux, <a href=\"https:\/\/acoup.blog\/2021\/02\/12\/collections-the-universal-warrior-part-iib-a-soldiers-lot\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Collections: The Universal Warrior, Part IIb: A Soldier&#8217;s Lot&#8221;, <em>A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry<\/em><\/a>, 2021-02-05.<\/p>\n<blockquote><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Echoes of those views continue to appear in western literature until the impersonal carnage of the Western Front seem to finally snuff them out. But it isn&#8217;t that the generations and generations before 1914 had never experienced war, but that war had changed. We&#8217;ve actually talked before about just how profoundly our modern view of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[62,7,5,41,246],"tags":[31,1457,139],"class_list":["post-73948","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-europe","category-history","category-military","category-quotations","category-ww1","tag-army","tag-bretdevereaux","tag-psychology"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/favicon.png","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-jeI","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73948","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=73948"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73948\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":95467,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73948\/revisions\/95467"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=73948"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=73948"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=73948"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}