{"id":54453,"date":"2022-09-14T01:00:27","date_gmt":"2022-09-14T05:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=54453"},"modified":"2022-09-14T10:02:33","modified_gmt":"2022-09-14T14:02:33","slug":"qotd-the-wars-of-religion-and-the-eventual-peace-of-westphalia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2022\/09\/14\/qotd-the-wars-of-religion-and-the-eventual-peace-of-westphalia\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: The Wars of Religion and the (eventual) Peace of Westphalia"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left; padding: 0px 15px 10px 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-48672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>Thomas Hobbes blamed the English Civil War on &#8220;ghostly authority&#8221;. Where the Bible is unclear, the crowd of simple believers will follow the most charismatic preacher. This means that religious wars are both inevitable, and impossible to end. Hobbes was born in 1588 \u2014 right in the middle of the Period of the Wars of Religion \u2014 and lived another 30 years after the Peace of Westphalia, so he knew what he was talking about.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s simply no possible compromise with an opponent who thinks you&#8217;re in league with the Devil, if not the literal Antichrist. Nothing Charles I could have done would&#8217;ve satisfied the Puritans sufficient for him to remain their king, because even if he did everything they demanded \u2014 divorced his Catholic wife, basically turned the Church of England into the Presbyterian Kirk, gave up all but his personal feudal revenues \u2014 the very act of doing these things would&#8217;ve made his &#8220;kingship&#8221; meaningless. No English king can turn over one of the fundamental duties of state to Scottish churchwardens and still remain King of England.<\/p>\n<p>This was the basic problem confronting all the combatants in the various Wars of Religion, from the Peasants&#8217; War to the Thirty Years&#8217; War. No matter what the guy with the crown does, he&#8217;s illegitimate. It took an entirely new theory of state power, developed over more than 100 years, to finally end the Wars of Religion. In case your Early Modern history is a little rusty, that was the Peace of Westphalia (1648), and it established the modern(-ish) sovereign nation-state. The king is the king because he&#8217;s the king; matters of religious conscience are not a sufficient <em>casus belli<\/em> between states, or for rebellion within states. <em>Cuius regio, eius religio<\/em>, as the Peace of Augsburg put it \u2014 the prince&#8217;s religion is the official state religion \u2014 and if you don&#8217;t like it, move. But since the Peace of Westphalia also made heads of state responsible for the actions of their nationals abroad, the prince had a vested interest in keeping private consciences private.<\/p>\n<p>I wrote &#8220;a new theory of state power&#8221;, and it&#8217;s true, the philosophy behind the Peace of Westphalia was new, but that&#8217;s not what ended the violence. What did, quite simply, was exhaustion. The Thirty Years&#8217; War was as devastating to &#8220;Germany&#8221; as World War I, and all combatants in all nations took tremendous losses. Sweden&#8217;s king died in combat, France got huge swathes of its territory devastated (after entering the war on the Protestant side), Spain&#8217;s power was permanently broken, and the Holy Roman Empire all but ceased to exist. In short, it was one of the most devastating conflicts in human history. They didn&#8217;t stop fighting because they finally wised up; they stopped fighting because they were physically incapable of continuing.<\/p>\n<p>The problem, though, is that the idea of <em>cuius regio, eius religio<\/em> was never repudiated. European powers didn&#8217;t fight each other over different strands of Christianity anymore, but they replaced it with an even more virulent religion, nationalism.<\/p>\n<p>Severian, <--<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rottenchestnuts.com\/arguing-with-god\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&#8211;>&#8221;Arguing with God&#8221;, <em>Rotten Chestnuts<\/em>, 2020-01-20.<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thomas Hobbes blamed the English Civil War on &#8220;ghostly authority&#8221;. Where the Bible is unclear, the crowd of simple believers will follow the most charismatic preacher. This means that religious wars are both inevitable, and impossible to end. 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