{"id":52384,"date":"2020-01-13T01:00:43","date_gmt":"2020-01-13T06:00:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=52384"},"modified":"2020-01-12T09:17:08","modified_gmt":"2020-01-12T14:17:08","slug":"qotd-early-civilizations-and-the-barbarians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2020\/01\/13\/qotd-early-civilizations-and-the-barbarians\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: Early civilizations and the barbarians"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"float:left; padding: 0px 15px 0px 0px\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-48672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400.png 400w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/QotD-thumbnail-400x400-50x50.png 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>The book [<em>Against The Grain<\/em>] ends with a chapter on &#8220;barbarians&#8221;. Scott reminds us that until about 1600, the majority of human population lived outside state control; histories that focus on states and forget barbarians are forgetting about most humans alive. In keeping with his thesis, Scott reviews some ancient sources that talk about barbarians in the context of people who did not farm or eat grain. Also in keeping with his thesis, he warns against thinking of barbarians as somehow worse or more primitive. Many barbarians were former state citizens who had escaped state control to a freer and happier lifestyle. Barbarian tribes could control vast trading empires, form complex confederations, and enter in various symbiotic relationships with the states around them. Scott wants us to think of these not as primitive people vs. advanced people, but as two different interacting lifestyles, of which the barbarian one was superior for most people up until a few centuries ago.<\/p>\n<p>Scott Alexander, <a href=\"https:\/\/slatestarcodex.com\/2019\/10\/14\/book-review-against-the-grain\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Book Review: <em>Against The Grain<\/em>&#8220;, <em>Slate Star Codex<\/em><\/a>, 2019-10-15.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The book [Against The Grain] ends with a chapter on &#8220;barbarians&#8221;. Scott reminds us that until about 1600, the majority of human population lived outside state control; histories that focus on states and forget barbarians are forgetting about most humans alive. 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