{"id":40565,"date":"2017-10-23T03:00:46","date_gmt":"2017-10-23T07:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=40565"},"modified":"2017-10-22T12:09:43","modified_gmt":"2017-10-22T16:09:43","slug":"its-legal-to-sell-2x4-lumber-thats-not-actually-2-by-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2017\/10\/23\/its-legal-to-sell-2x4-lumber-thats-not-actually-2-by-4\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s legal to sell 2&#215;4 lumber that&#8217;s not <em>actually<\/em> 2&#8243; by 4&#8243;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Not only is it legal, that&#8217;s the way construction lumber has been marketed and sold for decades. A recent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jsonline.com\/story\/money\/business\/retail\/2017\/10\/06\/lumber-lawsuit-against-menards-dismissed-judge-says-retailer-didnt-lie-its-4-x-4-s\/739282001\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Illinois case against US DIY chain Menards was dismissed<\/a> recently:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A federal judge has slammed the door on the Illinois lumber shoppers who sued Menards claiming it deceived them about the size of its 4x4s.<\/p>\n<p>Saying no reasonable consumer would regard Menards\u2019 descriptions of its lumber the way plaintiffs Michael Fuchs and Vladislav Krasilnikov said they did, the judge last week dismissed the would-be class action lawsuit against the Wisconsin-based home-improvement chain.<\/p>\n<p>The decision by U.S. District Judge Edmond Chang throws out a case in which Menards was accused of deception because it marketed and labeled its 4x4s without specifying that the boards measure 3\u00bd by 3 \u00bd inches.<\/p>\n<p>So-called dimensional lumber \u2014 2x4s, 4x4s, 2x6s and such \u2014 is commonly sold by names that do not specify the measurements of the pieces. The longstanding industry convention is recognized by the U.S. Department of Commerce, which distinguishes between the \u201cnominal\u201d designations for pieces of lumber and their actual size. The department says a 2&#215;4, for example, can measure 1\u00bd inches thick by 3\u00bd inches wide.<\/p>\n<p>The distinction between the name and the actual dimensions stems from the fact that lumber, when it is produced, typically is trimmed to smooth it after the initial rough cut, Chang said in his decision.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not only is it legal, that&#8217;s the way construction lumber has been marketed and sold for decades. A recent Illinois case against US DIY chain Menards was dismissed recently: A federal judge has slammed the door on the Illinois lumber shoppers who sued Menards claiming it deceived them about the size of its 4x4s. Saying [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[831,9,161],"tags":[658,529,428,1159],"class_list":["post-40565","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-business","category-law","category-woodworking","tag-illinois","tag-lawyers","tag-marketing","tag-materials"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/favicon.png","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-ayh","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40565","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40565"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40565\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40566,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40565\/revisions\/40566"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40565"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40565"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40565"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}