{"id":37990,"date":"2017-04-16T01:00:37","date_gmt":"2017-04-16T05:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=37990"},"modified":"2017-04-15T11:08:09","modified_gmt":"2017-04-15T15:08:09","slug":"qotd-the-fascination-of-hitler-and-nazi-germany","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2017\/04\/16\/qotd-the-fascination-of-hitler-and-nazi-germany\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: The fascination of Hitler and Nazi Germany"},"content":{"rendered":"

This morning I read Marina Fontaine\u2019s review of Downfall<\/em> (http:\/\/marinafontaine.blogspot.com\/2017\/03\/netflix-review-downfall.html<\/a>), yes, including mention of that<\/em> scene, the one that\u2019s been recaptioned several gazillion times, some with more humor than others. In the review, she asks why the fascination? What is it with the Nazis and Hitler?<\/p>\n

I have a theory. It is purely mine, based on reading a metric crap-ton about all manner of things (and don\u2019t ask me for cites because this stuff has stewed so long in the back of my head I no longer remember where I originally read whatever triggered any particular piece. You can get most of the raw facts off Wikipedia). It is also a very broad generalization. Coming years will determine whether or not it is correct in the big picture. I\u2019m not optimistic (I hope I\u2019ve got this horribly wrong. I fear I haven\u2019t).<\/p>\n

Okay. So.<\/p>\n

The ongoing fascination with Hitler and Nazi Germany.<\/p>\n

Simply put, it\u2019s the most well-documented and acknowledged demonstration of the allure of evil and how easy it is for a more or less civilized people to descend into utter brutality. As such, it holds an unclean fascination not helped by uniforms that were designed to look good as well as be practical (or by the simple fact that evil, when done effectively, is sexy. Because it is invariably power, and untrammeled power at that. We\u2019re human. Power attracts and corrupts us. The wiser among us acknowledge this so we can fight the effect).<\/p>\n

The various Communist regimes can be dismissed as \u201cnot counting\u201d because to the minds of those who do the dismissing, Russia, China, North Korea, and Eastern Europe \u201cweren\u2019t civilized\u201d, and so Communism\/Socialism would work just fine implemented by civilized people (they usually point to one of the Nordic nations when they do this). These same people are a big part of why the wrong lesson keeps being drawn from Nazi Germany.<\/p>\n

The problem was not nationalism. It was not even the disgusting racial laws. Those laws could never have been passed, much less enforced, without the one big thing Socialism, Communism, and yes, Nazism have in common.<\/p>\n

The supremacy of the state.<\/p>\n

[…]<\/p>\n

That bare listing of facts accounts for the rise of Hitler, but not the continuing notion that the Nazis were conservative (only if you define \u2018conservative\u2019 as \u2018nationalist\u2019). That one comes from two sources. One was Soviet propaganda aimed at making Communist and Nazi ideologies seem much more distinct than they actually were. The other was Allied propaganda aimed at much the same thing. It wouldn\u2019t do, after all, to have people realize they were allied with a dictator every bit as vile as Hitler.<\/p>\n

So in American and British media, the evil of the Nazis was played up, while the evil of the Communists was minimized where it couldn\u2019t be silenced altogether. The Communist plants and fellow-travelers in both nations helped.<\/p>\n

They were \u2013 and are \u2013 almost the same. Both demand an all-powerful state. The state determines who is deserving and provides for the deserving. The state dehumanizes the undeserving prior to eliminating them. The state determines the direction of industry (in the case of the Nazis, by requiring business owners to support the regime where the Communists took over the businesses). The state cares for you \u2013 but if you\u2019re no use to the state, your care will be an unmarked grave in a prison camp\/work camp\/concentration camp\/gulag. All hail the state.<\/p>\n

Kate Paulk, “The Ease of Evil”, guest-posting at According to Hoyt<\/em><\/a>, 2017-03-21.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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