{"id":36400,"date":"2016-11-22T03:00:51","date_gmt":"2016-11-22T08:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=36400"},"modified":"2018-09-18T10:34:29","modified_gmt":"2018-09-18T14:34:29","slug":"esr-what-if-we-had-a-culture-war-and-the-other-side-finally-showed-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2016\/11\/22\/esr-what-if-we-had-a-culture-war-and-the-other-side-finally-showed-up\/","title":{"rendered":"ESR &#8211; &#8220;What if we had a culture war and the other side finally showed up?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>ESR posted this on <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/0\/+EricRaymond\/posts\/VchTQuYoWK2?sfc=true\"><em>Google+<\/em><\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mike Pence gets lectured from on stage at a <em>Hamilton<\/em> performance on Friday. This [a Trump supporter disrupting a Chicago performance of <em>Hamilton<\/em>] happens on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>For decades the Left has been routinely trashing the rules of public decorum in in the name of political theater. Because &#8220;woke&#8221;, and stuff &#8211; anything goes to shatter bourgeois complacency.<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to payback time. Me, I would much rather nobody was doing this kind of public disruption. But if it&#8217;s going to happen at all, I&#8217;d prefer it to be sufficiently universal and obnoxious that we are all incentivized to rediscover a good old-fashioned principle.<\/p>\n<p>That is this: when you&#8217;re in a public space, at an event that isn&#8217;t explicitly about politics, keep a lid on yours. You&#8217;re not special; neither are the <em>Hamilton<\/em> cast members, or BLM protesters or any other of the Left&#8217;s myrmidons.<\/p>\n<p>Until today I wouldn&#8217;t have had to say this sort of thing to conservatives, because conservatives didn&#8217;t do things like barging <em>en masse<\/em> into restaurants yelling political slogans. Now that invisible restraint has been broken. There&#8217;ll be more of this, much more, before we find a new social equilibrium.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime&#8230;excuse me, I&#8217;ll be over here, laughing my ass off at all the leftists who wax indignant at being given a taste of their own medicine.\ufeff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Several of my friends on the left posted <em>Facebook<\/em> updates cheering the <em>Hamilton<\/em> cast and jeering at Pence. A few of them also posted criticism of the Trump supporter&#8217;s actions in Chicago. Once you&#8217;ve deliberately broken down the etiquette of public performance, you have no right to decry when your opponents also choose to violate decorum and drag politics into your safe spaces. I agree with ESR that both the Hamilton cast and the Trump guy were wrong to do this, and we&#8217;d all be better off if both sides agreed to avoid any further disruptions of this kind &#8230; but I don&#8217;t expect that to happen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ESR posted this on Google+: Mike Pence gets lectured from on stage at a Hamilton performance on Friday. This [a Trump supporter disrupting a Chicago performance of Hamilton] happens on Monday. For decades the Left has been routinely trashing the rules of public decorum in in the name of political theater. Because &#8220;woke&#8221;, and stuff [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[28,53,13],"tags":[1235,720,381],"class_list":["post-36400","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-media","category-politics","category-usa","tag-esr","tag-protest","tag-theatre"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/favicon.png","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-9t6","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36400","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=36400"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36400\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":36401,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36400\/revisions\/36401"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36400"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=36400"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=36400"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}