{"id":33021,"date":"2017-08-02T01:00:08","date_gmt":"2017-08-02T05:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=33021"},"modified":"2017-07-24T10:40:53","modified_gmt":"2017-07-24T14:40:53","slug":"qotd-the-fundamental-problem-of-the-middle-east","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2017\/08\/02\/qotd-the-fundamental-problem-of-the-middle-east\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: The fundamental problem of the Middle East"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Western media and intelligentsia don\u2019t seem to have a clue that the issues in the Middle East are not related to competing political ideologies, but to competing religious tribalism.<\/p>\n

The ongoing conflicts throughout the region, and in other parts of the world, are not about democracy versus monarchy; or fascism versus communism; or imperialism versus freedom. Or indeed any of the other childish ideologies Western journalists fell in love with during their undergraduate post-modernist deconstructionalist courses by failed ex-Trotsky\u2019s, who simply can\u2019t accept that the last century has proven how appalling and basically evil their over-simplistic ideologies are. (Yes Comrade Corbyn, that\u2019s you and your gushing twitteratti I am slamming!)<\/p>\n

In fact the problem in the Muslim world is that they are entering the third decade of the Muslim Civil War.<\/p>\n

The Sunni\u2019s and Shia\u2019s are at about the point that the Roman Catholics and the Protestants were at in Europe in the 1620\u2019s to 30\u2019s, and it is only going to get worse. That war was ideological, and paid very little attention to national boundaries. This one is the same. The Christian 30 Years War is about to be repeated in a Muslim civil war, and 30 years might be an optimistic number.<\/p>\n

Interestingly the Christian\u2019s split over 3 or four centuries, into Orthodox and Roman, then split again into Albigensian and Protestant etc. Eventually it got to the point, after 14 or 15 centuries of slow development, that major conflict broke out. Is it co-incidence that the Muslims have followed a similar path? Is it inevitable that after 14 or 15 centuries of existence, they too are having a major internal conflict? Or is it just that a century of renewed prosperity and development (largely brought on by Western intrusion into their secular affairs) has given them the semi-educated proto-middle class who traditionally stir up revolutionary stuff they don\u2019t understand?<\/p>\n

Whatever the reasons, stupid Westerners are eventually going to have to admit to a few realities:<\/p>\n

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  1. No matter how much you fantasise about the functionality of republics and democracy, you can\u2019t impose systems that don\u2019t work in places that don\u2019t have the necessary pre-requisites.<\/li>\n
  2. No matter how much literacy or free press you do manage to push in, you can\u2019t impose rule of law and understanding of natural law on societies that have very specifically rejected such concepts for 8 or 9 centuries.<\/li>\n
  3. No matter how much your secularist ideologies (developed from safely behind 2 millennia of Christian teaching that accepts rule of law and natural law) is offended, you cannot expect a similar acceptance from people whose cultural development of such beliefs is several centuries behind the West.<\/li>\n
  4. No matter what you want to believe, the Muslim civil war is happening.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Let\u2019s hope we really are at least half way through the 30 years\u2026<\/p>\n

    Nigel Davies, “The \u2018Arab Spring\u2019, 1848, and the 30 Years War\/s…”, rethinking history<\/em><\/a>, 2015-09-19.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    The Western media and intelligentsia don\u2019t seem to have a clue that the issues in the Middle East are not related to competing political ideologies, but to competing religious tribalism. The ongoing conflicts throughout the region, and in other parts of the world, are not about democracy versus monarchy; or fascism versus communism; or imperialism […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[84,7,370,41,11],"tags":[650,766,47],"class_list":["post-33021","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government","category-history","category-middle-east","category-quotations","category-religion","tag-civilwar","tag-democracy","tag-islam"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/favicon.png","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-8AB","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33021","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=33021"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33021\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":33022,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33021\/revisions\/33022"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=33021"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=33021"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=33021"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}