{"id":32765,"date":"2017-08-18T01:00:25","date_gmt":"2017-08-18T05:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=32765"},"modified":"2017-08-07T10:16:49","modified_gmt":"2017-08-07T14:16:49","slug":"qotd-justifying-the-holocaust","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2017\/08\/18\/qotd-justifying-the-holocaust\/","title":{"rendered":"QotD: &#8220;Justifying&#8221; the Holocaust"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>&#8230; that underlying tone of \u201cOf course what Hitler and the Nazis did was unjustifiable, they were wrong about what was going on around them\u201d whenever the topic of the Holocaust is discussed implies that, if they had been right, <em>what they did would have been, at least, justifiable<\/em>. In other words, there\u2019s an acceptance of the underlying logic of collective justice going on there, and when you put adjectives in front of justice, you almost never get justice.<\/p>\n<p>Which brings us to the current brawl in SF\/F and the wider culture. There\u2019s a very large swathe, of Western society that has regressed, though they call it progress, to the idea that one should deliberately punish all members of a group for the actions, real or imagined, of a few members, and to the idea that because members of a group are over-represented in a particular area that it is a deliberate choice on the part of the group, rather than an accident of history.<\/p>\n<p>You see it nearly everywhere. The idea that SF was somehow filled with racist, sexist hatemongers until \u2026 well, as near as I can tell, around five years ago is ludicrous when you have H. Beam Piper writing stories where racial intermarriage has turned almost all of humanity a nice shade of brown and there are heroic characters with names like Themistocles M\u2019Zangwe. But, even if that were true \u2014 what, we should stop reading (and buying books from) straight white male authors for an entire year? Because a bunch of people they never even met were theoretically jerks?<\/p>\n<p>Sarah Hoyt, <a href=\"http:\/\/accordingtohoyt.com\/2015\/07\/31\/social-injustice-60-guilders\/\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Social Injustice \u2013 60 Guilders&#8221;, <em>According to Hoyt<\/em><\/a>, 2015-07-31.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230; that underlying tone of \u201cOf course what Hitler and the Nazis did was unjustifiable, they were wrong about what was going on around them\u201d whenever the topic of the Holocaust is discussed implies that, if they had been right, what they did would have been, at least, justifiable. In other words, there\u2019s an acceptance [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[62,7,28,53,41],"tags":[304,969,1041,267,1020,85],"class_list":["post-32765","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-europe","category-history","category-media","category-politics","category-quotations","tag-antisemitism","tag-hitler","tag-holocaust","tag-justice","tag-progressives","tag-sf"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/favicon.png","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-8wt","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32765","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32765"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32765\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":39689,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32765\/revisions\/39689"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32765"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32765"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32765"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}