{"id":28523,"date":"2014-11-03T00:02:01","date_gmt":"2014-11-03T05:02:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=28523"},"modified":"2014-11-02T12:20:19","modified_gmt":"2014-11-02T17:20:19","slug":"ucla-students-on-the-new-affirmative-consent-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2014\/11\/03\/ucla-students-on-the-new-affirmative-consent-rules\/","title":{"rendered":"UCLA students on the new Affirmative Consent rules"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In <em>The Atlantic<\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2014\/10\/sex-on-campus-ucla-students-weigh-affirmative-consent-laws\/382179\/\" target=\"_blank\">Conor Friedersdorf<\/a> talks to actual UCLA students to find out what they think of the new rules for how they must conduct themselves in intimate situations:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Imagine serving on the campus equivalent of a jury in a sexual-assault case.<\/p>\n<p>The accused testifies, &#8220;I thought I was reading all the signals right. Once we started kissing it felt like things progressed naturally, like we were both into it. Neither of us said, &#8216;Yes, let&#8217;s do this,&#8217; but I definitely wanted to hook up. I felt sure we both did.&#8221; The accuser says, &#8220;I was totally comfortable when we started kissing, but as things progressed I felt more and more uncomfortable. I didn&#8217;t say stop or resist, but I didn&#8217;t consent to being groped or undressed. I wasn&#8217;t asked. I didn&#8217;t want that.&#8221; If both seem to be telling the truth as they perceive it, what&#8217;s the just outcome?<\/p>\n<p>Last week, I spent some time at UCLA asking students about California&#8217;s new &#8220;affirmative-consent&#8221; law. In our conversations, I described the law and asked them whether they supported it or not. I also posted this scenario to them. I was surprised by how common it was for students to express support for the law and then to say a few minutes later that they wouldn&#8217;t feel comfortable convicting the accused in <em>that<\/em> example. But there were also students who opposed affirmative-consent laws and later said that they would find the accused guilty.<\/p>\n<p>That conflict fit with a larger theme that ran through my conversations with undergraduates, from freshmen to seniors. Asked about California&#8217;s law, many supporters focused on how affirmative consent squared with their notion of what campus norms, values, and culture <em>ought to be<\/em>, rather than its effect on disciplinary cases, which they treated as a tangentially related afterthought. Opponents expressed abstract concerns about unjust convictions and due process, yet some felt that convicting the accused in <em>that<\/em> hypothetical would be just.<\/p>\n<p>In short, forcing both sides to confront a specific scenario made them see a thornier issue than they&#8217;d imagined. And it increased the conflicted feelings of many of those who had no definite position.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In The Atlantic, Conor Friedersdorf talks to actual UCLA students to find out what they think of the new rules for how they must conduct themselves in intimate situations: Imagine serving on the campus equivalent of a jury in a sexual-assault case. The accused testifies, &#8220;I thought I was reading all the signals right. 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