{"id":27703,"date":"2014-09-06T11:03:34","date_gmt":"2014-09-06T15:03:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=27703"},"modified":"2014-09-07T11:03:03","modified_gmt":"2014-09-07T15:03:03","slug":"hms-prince-of-wales-will-join-the-fleet-after-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2014\/09\/06\/hms-prince-of-wales-will-join-the-fleet-after-all\/","title":{"rendered":"<em>HMS Prince of Wales<\/em> will join the fleet after all"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>British PM David Cameron announced that the under-construction aircraft carrier <em>HMS Prince of Wales<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.savetheroyalnavy.org\/royal-navy-to-be-allowed-to-put-both-aircraft-carriers-into-service\/\" target=\"_blank\">will be active<\/a> after completion, reversing the decision from the SDSR in 2010:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-HMS-Prince-of-Wales.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-HMS-Prince-of-Wales-853x409.jpg\" alt=\"HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales\" width=\"853\" height=\"409\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-27704\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-HMS-Prince-of-Wales-853x409.jpg 853w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-HMS-Prince-of-Wales-150x72.jpg 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-HMS-Prince-of-Wales-480x230.jpg 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-and-HMS-Prince-of-Wales.jpg 1014w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 853px) 100vw, 853px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>At the close of the NATO summit in Wales this week David Cameron delivered the good news that the Royal Navy will be allowed to retain the second aircraft carrier <em>HMS Prince of Wales<\/em>. This was another U-turn, reversing one of the many mistaken decisions of Cameron\u2019s 2010 Defence Review that stated the ship would be mothballed or sold. Although undoubtedly good news for the navy, and more importantly the defence of the UK, it is difficult not to be cynical about the entire situation and timing of the announcement.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The announcement was not accompanied by much detail and leaves a lot of unanswered questions. The RN and its major procurement projects must successfully navigate a general election and the 2015 Defence Review before we can be really certain about HMS Prince of Wales\u2019 future. The biggest unknown is how will the costs of the second carrier be carried by the RN, have the additional costs been found by cuts elsewhere or has this been funded by new money?<\/p>\n<p>The photo above is a computer generated fantasy, apart from the fact carriers would rarely sail in such close formation, it is highly unlikely the RN will ever have the resources to field both carriers simultaneously. Generating the extra crew that the second carrier needs will be one of the first challenges for the RN, already in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.savetheroyalnavy.org\/the-hidden-crisis-royal-navy-manpower\/\" target=\"_blank\">the throes of a manpower crisis<\/a>. Although the carrier in refit or maintenance will not require anything like a full crew, it will still require an overlap of manning.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As noted <a href=\"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2014\/09\/03\/britains-shrinking-armed-forces\/\" target=\"_blank\">earlier this week<\/a>, the Royal Navy has shrunk from 38,730 to 33,330 since 2010. It&#8217;s going to be a scramble to train (and retain) enough skilled personnel to crew even <em>HMS Queen Elizabeth<\/em>, never mind at least a cadre for the second aircraft carrier.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update, 7 September<\/strong>: An interesting, but not surprising revelation from Ali Kefford (retweeted by @NavyLookout).<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" lang=\"en\">\n<p>Apparently PM banned then CDS from mentioning carriers during Op Ellamy, when he learnt the hard way that axing Ark Royal had been a mistake<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Ali Kefford (@akefford) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/akefford\/status\/508325581453529088\">September 6, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>British PM David Cameron announced that the under-construction aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales will be active after completion, reversing the decision from the SDSR in 2010: At the close of the NATO summit in Wales this week David Cameron delivered the good news that the Royal Navy will be allowed to retain the second [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,5],"tags":[617,389,30],"class_list":["post-27703","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-britain","category-military","tag-carriers","tag-davidcameron","tag-navy"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-7cP","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27703","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27703"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27703\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27718,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27703\/revisions\/27718"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27703"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27703"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27703"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}