{"id":21086,"date":"2013-07-13T11:03:41","date_gmt":"2013-07-13T16:03:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=21086"},"modified":"2013-07-13T11:03:41","modified_gmt":"2013-07-13T16:03:41","slug":"charles-stross-on-the-inspiration-for-saturns-children","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2013\/07\/13\/charles-stross-on-the-inspiration-for-saturns-children\/","title":{"rendered":"Charles Stross on the inspiration for <em>Saturn&#8217;s Children<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antipope.org\/charlie\/blog-static\/2013\/07\/crib-sheet-saturns-children.html\" target=\"_blank\">rather fascinating<\/a> &mdash; especially if you&#8217;re also a fan of Robert Heinlein:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now, I have a love\/hate relationship with Robert A. Heinlein&#8217;s work. I am not American; much of his world-view is alien to me. I did <em>not<\/em> grow up with his 1950&#8217;s juvenile novels, and I don&#8217;t like them much. Some of his work is deeply, irredeemably flawed and should probably be taken out back and shot. (Does <em>anyone<\/em> have a kind word to say for <em>Sixth Column<\/em> or <em>Farnham&#8217;s Freehold<\/em>? <font size=1>I&#8217;ll try: 6thC was written to an outline supplied by famously racist editor John W. Campbell, at a point when Heinlein needed the money, and he is alleged to have watered down the racism as far as he could; as for FF, here was a privileged white male from California, a notoriously exclusionary state, trying to understand American racism in the pre-Martin Luther King era. And getting it wrong for facepalm values of wrong, so wrong he wasn&#8217;t even on the right map &#8230; but at least he wasn&#8217;t ignoring it.<\/font>) Ahem. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s impossible to ignore Heinlein unless you&#8217;re going to ignore <em>all<\/em> American SF, and as that&#8217;s my main market and my main publishers are American, that&#8217;s not an option.<\/p>\n<p>So I decided to pick a Heinlein novel and do a homage to it. One of my two favourites would do: that narrowed it to <em>Glory Road<\/em> (not really an option because: space opera contract) or <em>Friday<\/em> (problematic, later work showing flashes of earlier brilliance but impossible to read now without much head-clutching or making excuses for the author&#8217;s lack of a language with which to tackle issues of racism and child abuse, which is what underpins that book). This made things both easier and harder, because <em>Friday<\/em> is a late period work \u2014 distinctly different from his early and mid-phase novels (although it was something of a return to his mid-period form).<\/p>\n<p>Then everything came together in my head in a blinding flash of enlightenment, thuswise:<\/p>\n<p>I was going to write a <em>late period<\/em> Heinlein tribute novel, because everybody (I&#8217;m looking at <em>you<\/em>, Scalzi; also John Varley, Spider Robinson, Mike Ford, Steven Gould &#8230;) else who does Heinlein tributes does <em>early<\/em> Heinlein. And if you want to stand out, the best way to do it is to look which way the herd is stampeding in, then go somewhere else.<\/p>\n<p>Heinlein in his dirty-old-man phase seemed to have a nipple obsession. Worse: an obsession with nipples which, as piloerectile tissue, made an implausible noise \u2014 &#8220;spung!&#8221; Thus, the word &#8220;spung!&#8221; becomes the centerpiece of any successful late-period Heinlein pastiche.<\/p>\n<p>We in the reality-based community are aware that real human nipples do not do &#8220;spung&#8221;. But under what circumstances might a nipple go &#8220;spung&#8221;? Well, if it was some sort of pressure-relief valve on a robot, that sound wouldn&#8217;t be <em>totally<\/em> implausible.<\/p>\n<p>Nipples &#8230; on a robot. Why would a robot need nipples? The answer seemed obvious: it was a sex robot. A sex robot in the shape of a Heinleinian omni-competent and beautiful yet sexually submissive heroine. (There is <em>nothing<\/em> politically correct about Heinlein: he was a product of a different age.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s rather fascinating &mdash; especially if you&#8217;re also a fan of Robert Heinlein: Now, I have a love\/hate relationship with Robert A. Heinlein&#8217;s work. I am not American; much of his world-view is alien to me. I did not grow up with his 1950&#8217;s juvenile novels, and I don&#8217;t like them much. 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