{"id":102673,"date":"2026-05-25T06:00:50","date_gmt":"2026-05-25T10:00:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=102673"},"modified":"2026-05-24T17:19:04","modified_gmt":"2026-05-24T21:19:04","slug":"enoch-powell-in-person","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2026\/05\/25\/enoch-powell-in-person\/","title":{"rendered":"Enoch Powell, in person"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I posted an excerpt from <a href=\"https:\/\/niccolo.substack.com\/p\/enoch-powell-and-his-1959-speech\" target=\"_blank\">Niccolo Soldo&#8217;s post<\/a> on Enoch Powell last week, which might be why Substack called my attention to this post from <a href=\"https:\/\/ombreolivier.substack.com\/p\/enoch-powell\" target=\"_blank\">Francis Turner<\/a>, which includes some memories of personal interaction with Powell during a visit Powell paid to Turner&#8217;s father in the early 1980s:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_102674\" style=\"width: 490px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Enoch-Powell-on-the-Dick-Cavett-Show-May-1971.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-102674\" src=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Enoch-Powell-on-the-Dick-Cavett-Show-May-1971-480x348.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"348\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-102674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Enoch-Powell-on-the-Dick-Cavett-Show-May-1971-480x348.png 480w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Enoch-Powell-on-the-Dick-Cavett-Show-May-1971-150x109.png 150w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Enoch-Powell-on-the-Dick-Cavett-Show-May-1971-768x557.png 768w, https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Enoch-Powell-on-the-Dick-Cavett-Show-May-1971.png 838w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-102674\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">No wonder he was vilified for telling the truth &#8230; he was completely correct.<\/p><\/div>\n<blockquote><p>As I commented on Niccolo&#8217;s post I had the fortune to meet Enoch Powell in the early 1980s. I think it would have been about April 1983 but I could be wrong. I don&#8217;t recall the reason Powell came, it could have been something to do with the Bible or Greek Patristics, it could have been theology, it could have been Gladstone or it could have been something totally different that I can&#8217;t guess. Anyway he spent a few days with my father for some reason and the two of them got on like a house on fire.<\/p>\n<p>Both were Cambridge educated classicists, though my father was there a decade after Powell, and they had a number of other things in common. They were of essentially the same social class and similar background. Both had been in intelligence in WW2 and concentrated on the Japanese front. Both had been to India &mdash; my father as missionary, Powell as soldier in WW2. Both had learned Indian languages &mdash; Powell learned Urdu, my father Tamil. Both had worked with &#8220;working class&#8221; people &mdash; my father as a vicar in Rochdale, Powell as MP in Wolverhampton. They also shared a similar political outlook, though I don&#8217;t think they discussed politics much beyond sharing their distaste for Europe.<\/p>\n<p>What I recall of those few days was what a nice man Enoch Powell was. As I mentioned in the comment, he helped me with my homework, which was Herodotus. I recall him, in addition to giving me specific advice, discussing with me and my father the various dialects of ancient Greek and how remarkable it was that an educated Greek in Constantinople could have read Herodotus written a thousand years or more earlier without much difficulty. I also recall him encouraging my father to learn German and even Russian because &#8220;you&#8217;ve learned two non Indo-European languages already, so both will be easy for you as a classicist&#8221;.<sup>1<\/sup> Since Powell spoke (or at least read and wrote) multiple Indo-European languages, including both of those, he may have been optimistic but his encouragement undoubtedly helped.<\/p>\n<p>He entirely failed to mention to me that he&#8217;d spent years as an academic studying Herodotus and had actually published a well known book about his work. But that did explain how he could know precisely what passage I was having trouble with from just the first few words.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that stood out was his intellect. He wasn&#8217;t in any way patronizing but he made little attempt to disguise his brains. He started off assuming you could more or less keep up and would adjust down until you did. He was also curious about new things. I don&#8217;t think he was faking it when he asked me about home computers and what good they were for. I&#8217;m not entirely sure I gave him a good answers but the questions he asked helped me realize that I really enjoyed programming them and that therefore a computer programmer might be a good career.<\/p>\n<p>The other main thing that he taught me was to distrust the media. He gave some specific examples regarding the IRA and Northern Ireland and how the BBC and the newspapers had exaggerated certain events. He also pointed out that the media had to pick and choose what to report on and that they could prioritize some events over others.<\/p>\n<p>One other thing. Part of his background was (Anglican) Christianity. He might not have gone to church every day, but he certainly did go on Sundays and if the opportunity presented itself he would attend Matins or Evensong. It was just the sort of thing one did. And one behaved accordingly. <\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<ol>\n<li><em>Quote not exact because it was 45 years ago<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I posted an excerpt from Niccolo Soldo&#8217;s post on Enoch Powell last week, which might be why Substack called my attention to this post from Francis Turner, which includes some memories of personal interaction with Powell during a visit Powell paid to Turner&#8217;s father in the early 1980s: As I commented on Niccolo&#8217;s post I [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[4,7,53],"tags":[1527,1391,360,1621,1617,400],"class_list":["post-102673","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-britain","category-history","category-politics","tag-ancientgreece","tag-biography","tag-christianity","tag-enochpowell","tag-herodotus","tag-language"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-qI1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102673","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=102673"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102673\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":102675,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102673\/revisions\/102675"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=102673"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=102673"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=102673"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}