{"id":102659,"date":"2026-05-24T06:00:47","date_gmt":"2026-05-24T10:00:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=102659"},"modified":"2026-05-23T22:13:22","modified_gmt":"2026-05-24T02:13:22","slug":"the-prc-would-need-a-literal-short-victorious-war-to-defeat-the-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2026\/05\/24\/the-prc-would-need-a-literal-short-victorious-war-to-defeat-the-us\/","title":{"rendered":"The PRC would need a literal “short, victorious war” to defeat the US"},"content":{"rendered":"

On Substack, Tom Kratman<\/a> looks at the economic and strategic weakness of the Peoples Republic of China should it get into a serious shooting war with the United States:<\/p>\n

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China’s strategic position is appalling, and at least the higher party cadres and senior military leadership have to know that it is. Why? China is utterly dependent on both imports and exports to keep their economy going and to feed themselves. By that latter, I don’t just mean they need to import food, though they do to the tune of one third. That’s bad enough, but they also need to import fertilizer to grow the inadequate amount of food they grow for themselves. No, nitrogen and phosphates aren’t a huge problem; they are net exporters. Potash is a problem. Loss of potash imports probably cut their grain production by about ten percent. This would be painful, but survivable with a touch of rationing and some weight loss.<\/p>\n

Except for one thing, oil and natural gas. Cut those off and grain production drops by a third within two years and probably forty percent after that. On top of the loss of the third that they must import, that’s serious hunger.<\/p>\n

And another thing, farm machinery and transportation. China only produces about a quarter of its oil needs domestically. Cut those off and mechanization of farming must be reduced.<\/p>\n

Add in that this kind of food reduction also means they must stop feeding food animals.<\/p>\n

Moreover, while a good deal of their transportation net runs off of electricity, which can be produced by the coal China does have, at what we might call the strategic level, getting the food from the farms to the railheads and from the railheads to markets to kitchens requires liquid fuel. China’s ability to produce liquid fuel from coal exists, but it is tiny.<\/p>\n

Add in the increased need for liquid fuel for their military in this case.<\/p>\n

A long series of interrogatories to Grok suggests that China’s total food production and importation collapses by seventy percent or more within two or three years if they go to war with us.<\/p>\n

It won’t be sudden; they probably have about a year’s worth of food in storage against such a day. But within three years? We’re talking an entire civilization in kwashiorkor<\/em>1<\/sup> and marasmus<\/em>2<\/sup>.<\/p>\n

How do they keep that industrial civilization going in the absence of food and energy imports, or the exports that have kept their economy going? They likely don’t.<\/p>\n

Although China’s population appears to be in accelerating collapse, they still have a lot more people than we do. Surely that represents … nothing. For a war fought largely at sea it represents nothing. Yes, they can, at least for the moment, build more ships faster than we can. However, we can build things to sink ships faster than they can build ships. Thus, we’ll keep our existing naval supremacy.<\/p>\n

There’s a worse factor in there, though; in China sons are just a lot more important than daughters. No, I don’t care if this upsets western feminist sensibilities; we are not talking about the west but about China. Daughters, assuming they marry, go on to take care of their husband’s family. Sons take care of the parents. It is the rare Chinese family with an extra son to spare.<\/p>\n

But can’t they build enough ships to overwhelm our blockade in the short term, at least? No, they can’t. China is surrounded by enemies on land, Vietnam, India, and Russia predominant among them, though none of the neighbors \u2013 barring, maybe, North Korea \u2013 really likes China or doesn’t fear it. No, however much public kissy face they may engage in for foreign consumption, China and Russia have long-standing, intractable issues between them. China is a threat to Russia and vice versa in ways we are not.<\/p>\n

So all the manpower and money spent on a navy is largely wasted. They’re not going to get a navy large, powerful, and competent enough to take us on and, if they really try to, we will manufacture a war \u2013 the United States is good at this \u2013 to trim them down to size before they can. Worse, every increment of money and manpower they spend on the navy is money and manpower not spent on the much more important army and air force.3<\/sup><\/p>\n

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  1. Caused by protein deficiency.<\/em><\/li>\n
  2. Caused by deficiency in all macronutrients.<\/em><\/li>\n
  3. The Navy is much more important to us because we have no serious land enemies in this hemisphere.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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