{"id":102332,"date":"2026-05-08T03:00:04","date_gmt":"2026-05-08T07:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/?p=102332"},"modified":"2026-05-07T11:19:43","modified_gmt":"2026-05-07T15:19:43","slug":"without-western-civilization-wed-all-still-be-whacking-at-the-dirt-with-sticks-and-dying-of-intestinal-parasites","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/2026\/05\/08\/without-western-civilization-wed-all-still-be-whacking-at-the-dirt-with-sticks-and-dying-of-intestinal-parasites\/","title":{"rendered":"“… without Western Civilization, we’d all still be whacking at the dirt with sticks and dying of intestinal parasites”"},"content":{"rendered":"

Devon Eriksen<\/a> responds to someone who had a clanker generate an imaginary Aztec capital today if the Aztecs had managed to defeat Cortes and his conquistadors<\/em>:<\/p>\n

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Guitars. Suits and ties. Western architecture. English and Spanish text. <\/p>\n

What’s easy to miss is that the generative AI is making its own, separate, political statement here. Not because it intended to, but because it had no choice. <\/p>\n

Even human creativity consists mostly of rearranging things, but AI generation is entirely that and nothing else. <\/p>\n

So when you ask it for “modern”, it gives you “western”, because in its eyes, there is no distinction between the two. “Western” is the only “modern” that actually exists for it to draw from. <\/p>\n

Even cultures that were capable of building an alternative version of modern, because they weren’t skinning and eating each other, and had invented the wheel, still borrowed heavily from the West, not because they couldn’t do otherwise, but because the West moved faster, and had already done the work.<\/p>\n

So, ask an AI for “modern Aztec”, and you get English-speaking Tokyo\/Venice, with browner people, pyramid reskins on skyscrapers, and some out-of-place Mayan stuff, all set to Peruvian flute music. <\/p>\n

This is the same reason that a lot of people, most of whom really aren’t much more than LLMs themselves, say silly things like “there is no White culture” … because, like the very simple art machine, they cannot conceive of any alternative version of modernity. <\/p>\n

So nothing is Western to them, it’s all just “modern”. <\/p>\n

But of course it really is Western, because without Western Civilization, we’d all still be whacking at the dirt with sticks and dying of intestinal parasites. <\/p>\n

That AI is Western, too.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Devon Eriksen responds to someone who had a clanker generate an imaginary Aztec capital today if the Aztecs had managed to defeat Cortes and his conquistadors: Guitars. Suits and ties. Western architecture. English and Spanish text. What’s easy to miss is that the generative AI is making its own, separate, political statement here. Not because […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[465,28,15],"tags":[898,1506,1278,156,686,335],"class_list":["post-102332","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-americas","category-media","category-technology","tag-alternativehistory","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-aztecs","tag-fail","tag-futurism","tag-spain"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2hpV6-qCw","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102332","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=102332"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102332\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":102334,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102332\/revisions\/102334"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=102332"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=102332"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/quotulatiousness.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=102332"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}