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		<title>QotD: The Canadian (lack of) taste for charismatic leadership</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/08/28/qotd-the-canadian-lack-of-taste-for-charismatic-leadership/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Canadians like their politicians dull. Perhaps at some point, many moons ago, this was a defense mechanism of sorts. A dull politician is unlikely to do anything rash and interventionist, thereby mucking up the daily life of the nation. This is no longer a safe strategy. Lester Pearson was politely dull, and unleashed Medicare, an [...]]]></description>
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<p>Canadians like their politicians dull. Perhaps at some point, many moons ago, this was a defense mechanism of sorts. A dull politician is unlikely to do anything rash and interventionist, thereby mucking up the daily life of the nation. This is no longer a safe strategy. Lester Pearson was politely dull, and unleashed Medicare, an ahistorical flag and Pierre Trudeau on an unsuspecting nation. Never was so much harm, done by so few, in so short a period of time, than in Mike Pearson&#8217;s five years in office. Much of what people blame Trudeau for was actually begun by Pearson. But who could hate Mike? He was such a nice guy. He wore a bow tie.</p>
<p>There have been only three genuinely charismatic Prime Ministers in Canadian history: Wilfred Laurier, John Diefenbaker and Pierre Trudeau. John A Macdonald might be a weak fourth, depending on how fond you are of boozy charm. What did they all have in common? What the Elder President Bush disdainfully called the &#8220;vision thing.&#8221; You may not like their visions, but they were about something and attracted a train of almost fanatical &mdash; by Canadian standards &mdash; followers. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t run into an aging baby boomer in Toronto, they are ubiquitous here, without being bored to tears with their particular Trudeau story. They campaigned for him. They met him walking down some solitary Montreal street. You get the odd Trudeau in the wilderness stories. The funny ones usually involve a disco, a blond and something that happened after the third cocktail. Urban legends used to surround Laurier as well. Dief, as Peter C Newman noted, had the presence of an Old Testament prophet. </p>
<p>Their vision and their charisma were not coincidences, but corollaries. Just being charming and interesting will get you only so far. </p>
<p>Publius, <a href="http://godscopybook.blogs.com/gpb/2010/08/iggy-why.html" target="_blank">&#8220;Iggy Why&#8221;, <em>Gods of the Copybook Headings</em></a>, 2010-08-26</p>
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		<title>A &#8220;new chapter in U.S. history&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/06/18/a-new-chapter-in-u-s-history/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron Hart congratulates President Obama for delivering on his promised change: We are so in debt to China that President Obama had to visit their president in his first year in office. It was an important meeting between the most powerful communist leader in the world and the president of China. Obama is so popular [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/16/change-please-mr-president-change-it-back/#ixzz0r7o9Qbbz" target="_blank">Ron Hart</a> congratulates President Obama for delivering on his promised change:</p>
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<p>We are so in debt to China that President Obama had to visit their president in his first year in office. It was an important meeting between the most powerful communist leader in the world and the president of China.</p>
<p>Obama is so popular in China that a nightclub named after him opened in Beijing. In keeping with the Obama theme, the club opened with $10 trillion in debt. It will, hopefully, close in just four years with $15 trillion in debt and no apologies to its “hope-based” investors.</p>
<p>[. . .]</p>
<p>To sum up our situation just short of two years into this Obamanation of an administration: Our debt is much higher, an unwanted ObamaCare bill that will cost us at least $2 trillion more than predicted was rammed through Congress, more troops are in Afghanistan, unemployment is much higher even after a union handout “stimulus” bill, and the biggest tax increase in American history is coming in 2011. So yes, Mr. President, technically I guess you can say you have brought about “change.”</p>
<p>As for your assertion, Mr. Obama, that you are going to usher in a “new chapter in U.S. history,” it looks like you will make good on that too. Unfortunately, it will be Chapter 11.</p>
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<p>H/T to Jon, my former virtual landlord.</p>
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		<title>P.J. O&#8217;Rourke definitely wasn&#8217;t an &#8220;A&#8221; student</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/04/26/p-j-orourke-definitely-wasnt-an-a-student/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least, based on his apparent contempt for &#8220;A&#8221; students: America has made the mistake of letting the A student run things. It was A students who briefly took over the business world during the period of derivatives, credit swaps, and collateralized debt obligations. We’re still reeling from the effects. This is why good businessmen [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least, based on his apparent contempt for &#8220;A&#8221; students:</p>
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<p>America has made the mistake of letting the A student run things. It was A students who briefly took over the business world during the period of derivatives, credit swaps, and collateralized debt obligations. We’re still reeling from the effects. This is why good businessmen have always adhered to the maxim: “A students work for B students.” Or, as a businessman friend of mine put it, “B students work for C students &mdash; A students teach.”</p>
<p>It was a bunch of A students at the Defense Department who planned the syllabus for the Iraq war, and to hell with what happened to the Iraqi Class of ’03 after they’d graduated from Shock and Awe.</p>
<p>The U.S. tax code was written by A students. Every April 15 we have to pay somebody who got an A in accounting to keep ourselves from being sent to jail.</p>
<p>Now there’s health care reform &mdash; just the kind of thing that would earn an A on a term paper from that twerp of a grad student who teaches Econ 101.</p>
<p>Why are A students so hateful? I’m sure up at Harvard, over at the <em>New York Times</em>, and inside the White House they think we just envy their smarts. Maybe we are resentful clods gawking with bitter incomprehension at the intellectual magnificence of our betters. If so, why are our betters spending so much time nervously insisting that they’re smarter than Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement? They are. You can look it up (if you have a fancy education the way our betters do and know what the unabridged <em>Oxford English Dictionary</em> is). “Smart” has its root in the Old English word for being a pain. The adjective has eight other principal definitions ranging from “brisk” to “fashionable” to “neat.” Only two definitions indicate cleverness &mdash; smart as in “clever in talk” and smart as in “clever in looking after one’s own interests.” Don’t get smart with me.</p>
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<p>Whole piece <a href="http://weeklystandard.com/articles/plague-%E2%80%98a%E2%80%99-students" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>QotD: The future of Obamacare</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/03/23/qotd-the-future-of-obamacare/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There will be court challenges to Obamacare but I doubt if they will be entirely successful. I further find it unlikely that the GOP, if they achieve majority status again, will be able to repeal it. Perhaps a combination of the two but that may be the most unlikely scenario at all. Prediction? In five [...]]]></description>
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<p>There will be court challenges to Obamacare but I doubt if they will be entirely successful. I further find it unlikely that the GOP, if they achieve majority status again, will be able to repeal it. Perhaps a combination of the two but that may be the most unlikely scenario at all.</p>
<p>Prediction? In five years, the Republican party will be embracing Obamacare and will be running on a platform that boasts they are the best party to manage it efficiently.</p>
<p>Rick Moran, <a href="http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2010/03/22/national-health-insurance-reform-done/" target="_blank">&#8220;NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM DONE&#8221;, <em>Right Wing Nuthouse</em></a>, 2010-03-22</p>
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		<title>QotD: Process matters</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/03/15/qotd-process-matters/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Libertarians are process people, something that our political opponents find impossible to believe can be real, rather than disingenuous. So when I say that I think Lawrence v. Texas might be the right result morally but the wrong result legally, it must be that I secretly want sodomy to be illegal, or at the very [...]]]></description>
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<p>Libertarians are process people, something that our political opponents find impossible to believe can be real, rather than disingenuous.  So when I say that I think Lawrence v. Texas might be the right result morally but the wrong result legally, it must be that I secretly want sodomy to be illegal, or at the very least don&#8217;t care.  Or when I am troubled by government intervening in the Chrysler bankruptcy process, it&#8217;s because I hate unions.  And of course, when I am against post-hoc legal judgments against bankers or their bonuses, it&#8217;s just because I&#8217;m an apologist for rich people.</p>
<p>But to a libertarian, process matters.  Having a good process is better than getting a good outcome, because a good process is one that maximizes your chances of getting good outcomes over time.  </p>
<p>Megan McArdle, <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2009/12/the-process-of-passing-health-care/32462/" target="_blank">&#8220;The Process of Passing Health Care&#8221;, <em>The Atlantic</em></a>, 2009-12-22</p>
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		<title>QotD: Canada&#8217;s national inferiority complex</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/03/03/qotd-canadas-national-inferiority-complex/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[But when I refer to casting off our national inferiority complex, I don’t mean the permission we suddenly seem to have given ourselves to be overjoyed by our nation’s athletic accomplishments. Rather, I’m talking about the way most of our major national policies of the past half-century have really just been masks for our national [...]]]></description>
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<p>But when I refer to casting off our national inferiority complex, I don’t mean the permission we suddenly seem to have given ourselves to be overjoyed by our nation’s athletic accomplishments. Rather, I’m talking about the way most of our major national policies of the past half-century have really just been masks for our national angst. Multiculturalism, universal health care, soft power diplomacy, economic and cultural nationalism and others are all, in part, efforts to downplay our own fear that we are an insignificant nation. Through them, we reassure ourselves of our moral superiority, especially toward the Americans.</p>
<p>Maybe Vancouver finally made us willing to stop defining ourselves through our belief in giant government programs and our fear and resentment of the United States.</p>
<p>Now, perhaps, we can also give ourselves permission to stop trying to manufacture a distinctly Canadian culture and just let one evolve naturally.</p>
<p>We are not Americans. We are never going to be Americans. No amount of economic or cultural protectionism is going to keep U.S. influences out. But also, American influences were never going to impoverish us or strip our identity away.</p>
<p>Maybe now, with the Olympics over and our new-found national confidence high, we’ll get past our common belief that universal health care makes us a better country and gives us superior care. For far too long we have planned health care through this sort of political filter rather than a medical one.</p>
<p>Perhaps instead of sneering at the Americans about their melting pot approach to immigration and insisting our multicultural approach is superior, we’ll now come to see the two as different sides of the same coin.</p>
<p>I think we have already come to understand that while we were tremendous peacekeepers under the UN, what the world needs now is peacemakers. There was nothing wrong with our old role. We were very good at it. But now we have moved on. We have re-equipped ourselves and are getting on with the heavy lifting of fighting in hot spots and bringing aid directly to stricken regions.</p>
<p>Those who still cling to the old notion of Canada as only ever a non-fighting nation, that works only through the UN and cares deeply what the rest of the world thinks of us, have been left behind by events.</p>
<p>Lorne Gunter, <a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/03/03/lorne-gunter-in-vancouver-and-whistler-shades-of-vimy.aspx" target="_blank">&#8220;In Vancouver and Whistler, shades of Vimy&#8221;, <em>National Post</em></a>, 2010-03-03</p>
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		<title>BBC accused of bias in euthanasia debate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The BBC&#8217;s decision to broadcast Terry Pratchett&#8217;s speech on euthanasia tribunals is cited as evidence that the corporation is acting as an advocate on this highly emotional issue: The Care Not Killing Alliance accused the BBC of flouting impartiality rules and adopting a “campaigning stance” in an attempt to step up pressure on the Government [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC&#8217;s decision to broadcast Terry Pratchett&#8217;s speech on euthanasia tribunals is cited as evidence that the corporation is acting as an advocate on <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7291920/BBC-accused-of-incredibly-zealous-campaign-to-promote-assisted-suicide.html" target="_blank">this highly emotional issue</a>:</p>
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<p>The Care Not Killing Alliance accused the BBC of flouting impartiality rules and adopting a “campaigning stance” in an attempt to step up pressure on the Government to legalise assisted suicide.</p>
<p>The decision to broadcast Sir Terry Pratchett&#8217;s speech advocating &#8220;euthanasia tribunals&#8221; in full earlier this month was an example of unbalanced reporting, the alliance claimed. </p>
<p>Lord Carlile, chairman of the alliance and the Government&#8217;s independent reviewer of terror legislation, has demanded a meeting with BBC bosses to seek answers over the “biased” coverage.</p>
<p>In a letter to Sir Michael Lyons, the chairman of the BBC trust, the Liberal Democrat peer also raised questions over the corporation’s failure to inform police that a veteran presenter had confessed to killing his lover on one of its programmes. </p>
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<p>H/T to Elizabeth for the link.</p>
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		<title>More on Premier Williams&#8217; medical decision</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/02/03/more-on-premier-williams-medical-decision/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following up to yesterday&#8217;s post on Newfoundland and Labrador premier Danny Williams and his decision to seek care out-of-country for his heart condition: I have always argued that every Canadian should be free to seek treatment wherever he or she wants. Elective or lifesaving, complicated or straightforward, it is none of my business where Danny [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up to <a href="http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/02/02/not-the-first-certainly-not-the-last/" target="_blank">yesterday&#8217;s post</a> on Newfoundland and Labrador premier Danny Williams and his decision to seek care out-of-country for his <a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/03/lorne-gunter-what-s-good-for-danny-williams.aspx#ixzz0eUfsignL" target="_blank">heart condition</a>:</p>
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<p>I have always argued that every Canadian should be free to seek treatment wherever he or she wants. Elective or lifesaving, complicated or straightforward, it is none of my business where Danny Williams goes for his operation, or who pays for it.</p>
<p>True, there would be something of a hypocrisy factor at play if Mr. Williams has preached the virtues of Canada&#8217;s state-monopoly care and now, when he has to put his faith in the system, he has flown the coop rather than stand in line for a treatment he could receive here.</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t know what exactly is wrong with the brash and charming politician, who is one of the few chunks of flavour in the floury roux of Canadian politics. Perhaps what ails him can only be fixed south of the border &mdash; in which case, the province might even have paid for his treatment in a foreign clinic.</p>
<p>The point I am trying to make here is that only because we have turned health care into a political hot potato are any of us even wondering whether the premier is justified in going to an American clinic.</p>
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<p>Well, when an ordinary person has to wait months and months just to <em>see</em> a specialist, and then wait even longer for surgery, while the political class can (apparently) get immediate attention and care, it becomes difficult to continue believing that all Canadians are entitled to equal care . . .</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t disagree with Lorne Gunter here:</p>
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<p>What I resent is the way premiers and prime ministers won&#8217;t free you or me to buy insurance that would enable us to procure first-class care in times of need. What I resent is the way many limousine liberals lash us to the mast of the good ship Medicare, then run off to the United States when it&#8217;s their lives or their families&#8217; on the line. They are like public school trustees who send their kids to private school.</p>
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		<title>Not the first, certainly not the last</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2010/02/02/not-the-first-certainly-not-the-last/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danny Williams, premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, will be having heart surgery later this week. This is a bit of a surprise to most, as he&#8217;s known to be a regular exerciser and hasn&#8217;t missed time for illness recently. Here&#8217;s Kenyon Wallace&#8217;s report: Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams is to have heart surgery in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Williams, premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, will be having heart surgery later this week. This is a bit of a surprise to most, as he&#8217;s known to be a regular exerciser and hasn&#8217;t missed time for illness recently. Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=2510700&#038;utm_source=twitterfeed&#038;utm_medium=twitter&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NP_Top_Stories+%28National+Post+-+Top+Stories%29&#038;utm_content=Twitter" target="_blank">Kenyon Wallace&#8217;s report</a>:</p>
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<p>Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams is to have heart surgery in the United States later this week, a press conference this morning is expected to confirm.</p>
<p>Media reports last night suggested the popular 59-year-old Premier has opted not to remain in his home province or country for the scheduled surgery, opting instead for treatment at a U.S. institution. The exact destination is not known.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can confirm that Premier Williams did leave the province this morning and will be undergoing heart surgery later this week,&#8221; said Mr. Williams&#8217; spokeswoman, Elizabeth Matthews, in an email to the Canadian Press.</p>
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<p>Not the first Canadian politician to elect to get medical care in the United States, and (on past experience) he&#8217;ll certainly not be the last one either. A cynic might note that the leaders don&#8217;t have the same confidence in the Canadian healthcare system that the people do . . . or it might be that politicians see themselves as far too important to have to wait until their turn under our system (where wait times are a quiet shame).</p>
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		<title>QotD: Why Canadian-style healthcare won&#8217;t succeed in the United States</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking from immediate personal experience here: Many Americans have romantic visions of Canadian health care but Canadian health care works as it does only because Canadians are deferential to authority and unwilling to complain loudly no matter the situation. The shock of a visit to an ER department will not dent a Canadian&#8217;s feckless stoicism. [...]]]></description>
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<p>Speaking from immediate personal experience here: Many Americans have romantic visions of Canadian health care but Canadian health care works as it does only because Canadians are deferential to authority and unwilling to complain loudly no matter the situation. The shock of a visit to an ER department will not dent a Canadian&#8217;s feckless stoicism. Loud complaints are just another way of drawing undue attention to yourself, this considered extremely rude north of the border; so much so that queue jumpers earn little opprobrium while the man kicking the queue jumper out of line earns frowns of disapproval (again, personal experience as the line enforcer). Consequently, wait times, waiting lists and twelve hours of nothing at the emergency room are just another government thing to be endured.</p>
<p>Like the winter, supposedly.</p>
<p>I am reminded of an observation to the effect an armed society is a polite society. Obama can enact his shitty little elitist plan as he likes; I doubt it will change the American character, at least not before Obama&#8217;s shitty little elitist plan is revoked. In the meantime, I pity the fool American medical resident who talks to his or her patients the way I saw patients dealt with at one of downtown Toronto&#8217;s elite hospitals yesterday.</p>
<p>Nick Packwood, <a href="http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/013185.html" target="_blank">&#8220;Why socialist medicine will fail in the United States&#8221;, <em>Ghost of a Flea</em></a>, 2009-11-24</p>
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