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		<title>Member of the House of Lords offers £10 Million bounty for capturing Barack Obama and George Bush</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2012/04/16/member-of-the-house-of-lords-offers-10-million-bounty-for-capturing-barack-obama-and-george-bush/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m not sure what they&#8217;re putting in the drinking water in the House of Lords, but whatever it is, it must be powerful: During a recent visit to Pakistan, Lord Nazir Ahmed, a member of the British House of Lords who originally hails from Pakistani Kashmir, announced he was putting up a bounty of £10 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what they&#8217;re putting in the drinking water in the House of Lords, but whatever it is, <a href="http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/6281.htm#.T4sBjo3ajLI.twitter" target="_blank">it must be powerful</a>:</p>
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<p>During a recent visit to Pakistan, Lord Nazir Ahmed, a member of the British House of Lords who originally hails from Pakistani Kashmir, announced he was putting up a bounty of £10 million for the capture of U.S. President Barack Obama and his predecessor, George W. Bush. The announcement, made at a conference held in the Pakistani town of Haripur, came in response to a recent U.S. announcement offering a $10 million reward to anyone providing information leading to the capture of Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, founder of the Pakistani jihadi organization <em>Lashkar-e-Taiba</em> (LeT), and emir of LeT&#8217;s charity arm, <em>Jamaatud Dawa</em>.[1]</p>
<p>Stressing the seriousness of his offer, Lord Ahmed said he would back the bounty at any cost, even if it meant selling his house. Qazi Muhammad Asad, minister for education in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa provincial government, was among those present at the conference at which the announcement was made. </p>
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<p>Yes, it&#8217;s likely a fake story, but it&#8217;s too funny to check before running it.</p>
<p><b>Update</b>: Oh, perhaps it&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/9206078/Lord-Ahmed-suspended-from-Labour-Party-after-offering-10m-bounty-for-capture-of-Obama-and-Bush.html" target="_blank">real story</a> after all:</p>
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<p><strong>Lord Ahmed suspended from Labour Party after &#8216;offering £10m bounty for capture of Obama and Bush&#8217;</strong></p>
<p>Lord Nazir Ahmed, 53, who in 1998 became the first Muslim life peer, was reported to have made the comments at a conference in Haripur in Pakistan.</p>
<p>A Labour Party spokesman said: &#8220;We have suspended Lord Ahmed pending investigation. If these comments are accurate we utterly condemn these remarks which are totally unacceptable.&#8221;</p>
<p>[. . .]</p>
<p>But Lord Ahmed complained that party chiefs had not spoken to him before announcing the move and challenged the party to produce evidence against him.</p>
<p>He had told the meeting that Mr Bush and ex-Labour prime minister Tony Blair should be prosecuted for war crimes however, he added, speaking from Pakistan. </p>
<p>[. . .]</p>
<p>Asked about the reported comments, he said: &#8220;I never said those words.</p>
<p>&#8220;I did not offer a bounty. I said that there have been war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan and those people who have got strong allegations against them &mdash; George W Bush and Tony Blair have been involved in illegal wars and should be brought to justice.</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not think there&#8217;s anything wrong with that,&#8221; he said &mdash; adding that he was equally concerned that anyone suspected of terrorism should face justice as well. </p>
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		<title>The state of Pakistan: grim and getting grimmer</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2012/03/24/the-state-of-pakistan-grim-and-getting-grimmer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert Fulford in the National Post, examines the evidence presented in Ahmed Rashid’s book, Pakistan on the Brink: The Future of America, Pakistan and Afghanistan: In rich, persuasive detail, Rashid describes corrupt leaders and a despairing population, an army that obeys orders only when it wants to, a stagnant economy, disastrous relations with neighbouring countries [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/24/robert-fulford-the-pakistan-mess-is-worse-than-we-thought/" target="_blank">Robert Fulford</a> in the <em>National Post</em>, examines the evidence presented in Ahmed Rashid’s book, <em>Pakistan on the Brink: The Future of America, Pakistan and Afghanistan</em>:</p>
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<p>In rich, persuasive detail, Rashid describes corrupt leaders and a despairing population, an army that obeys orders only when it wants to, a stagnant economy, disastrous relations with neighbouring countries — and above all, a persistent national tendency, exemplified by Zardari, to blame others when anything goes wrong. Americans are often seen to be at fault, and sometimes Israelis. India is considered permanently blameworthy.</p>
<p>Half of school-age Pakistanis don’t attend school. At the state’s founding in 1947, 52% of the citizens were literate; in 65 years that number has been raised to 57%. In the last 20 years, Rashid notes, Pakistan has not developed a single new industry or cultivated a new crop. On the level of imagination, it has died or lapsed into a coma.</p>
<p>Politicians and military officers take turns forcing each other out of power; that’s the only system of regime change that operates, and it does nothing to eliminate corruption.</p>
<p>Rashid makes it clear that Pakistan’s core problem is as much a moral as a political failure, a matter of shirked duties, profound dishonesty and rancid hatreds that encourage murder. Reforms don’t happen, he believes, because neither political, nor military leaders have the courage, will and intelligence to carry them out.</p>
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		<title>Pakistan: “as many as 80% &#8230; considered non-Muslims to be enemies of Islam”</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2012/02/19/pakistan-as-many-as-80-considered-non-muslims-to-be-enemies-of-islam/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to this article in the National Post, Jonathan Kay says anti-Americanism and support for Taliban operations in Afghanistan is far more than just realpolitik &#8220;Great Game&#8221; positioning &#8212; it&#8217;s actually a vastly popular cause with ordinary Pakistanis: A good indication of what ordinary Pakistanis think comes to us courtesy of a U.S. government-sponsored study [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this article in the <em>National Post</em>, <a href="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/18/jonathan-kay-the-pakistan-problem-isnt-just-the-government-its-the-people/" target="_blank">Jonathan Kay</a> says anti-Americanism and support for Taliban operations in Afghanistan is far more than just <em>realpolitik</em> &#8220;Great Game&#8221; positioning &mdash; it&#8217;s actually a vastly popular cause with ordinary Pakistanis:</p>
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<p>A good indication of what ordinary Pakistanis think comes to us courtesy of a U.S. government-sponsored study called “Connecting the Dots: Education and Religious Discrimination in Pakistan,” recently produced by the U.S.-based International Center for Religion &#038; Diplomacy, in conjunction with an independent Pakistani policy think tank called the Sustainable Development Policy Institute. Together, their researchers conducted an in-depth study of the attitudes toward non-Muslims reflected in 100 sampled Pakistani textbooks, and in interviews with teachers and students at 37 of the country’s public schools and 19 madrassas.</p>
<p>The interviews with teachers were especially telling: This is precisely the stratum of society &mdash; literate, educated, middle-class &mdash; that one would expect to embrace relatively moderate and enlightened attitudes. But generally speaking, the opposite is true. Almost half of the surveyed public-school teachers did not even know that non-Muslims could become citizens of the Pakistani state. A common theme was that non-Muslim religions are inherently sinister, and that friendly relations between the faiths are worth maintaining only insofar as they can generate opportunities for Muslims to attract converts.</p>
<p>[. . .]</p>
<p>In Pakistani textbooks, the line between mosque and state is virtually non-existent. Students learn that international boundaries &mdash; say, between Pakistan and Afghanistan &mdash; don’t count for much: “In all the textbooks analyzed, the student is presented a world where concepts such as nation, constitution, legality, standing armies, or multi-lateral organizations &mdash; except where they are prescribed by Islamic doctrine of sharia law &mdash; do not exist.”</p>
<p>There is some good news in the report: Many of the interviewed Pakistani teachers expressed the belief that, on an interpersonal level, non-Muslim students and their religious practices should be treated with respect. But overall, “as many as 80% of the respondents considered non-Muslims to be enemies of Islam.” This feeling of enmity was justified by reference to a grab bag of complaints against the West: acts of anti-Islamic “blasphemy,” “spreading the evil of alcohol in Muslim society,” “killings of innocent Muslim citizens through missiles,” and “the banning of veils [in France].”</p>
<p>These views help explain why Pakistani mobs often erupt in incendiary spasms of anger not only at drone strikes in Pakistani territory, but also at symbolic slights — such as perceived defilements of the Koran: Bitterness and anger at non-Muslims are deeply felt, widely shared attitudes in Pakistan; and it is doubtful they can be addressed by any sort of goodwill campaign or foreign-policy adjustment. Jihad, if only by proxy, will remain a popular cause for Pakistani governments seeking to promote their Islamic bona fides.</p>
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		<title>A surprising admission in Conrad Black&#8217;s survey of the Muslim world</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2012/01/21/a-surprising-admission-in-conrad-blacks-survey-of-the-muslim-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The surprise? The unexpectedly nice words for, of all people, former prime minister Jean Chrétien: All this toing and froing begs the question of why the West has expended such time and resources in Afghanistan, where Pakistan is the chief backer of the main killer of NATO forces (the Haqqani faction), and the chief supplier [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The surprise? The unexpectedly nice words for, of all people, former prime minister <a href="http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/01/21/conrad-black-theres-hope-amid-the-chaos-in-the-muslim-world/" target="_blank">Jean Chrétien</a>:</p>
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<p>All this toing and froing begs the question of why the West has expended such time and resources in Afghanistan, where Pakistan is the chief backer of the main killer of NATO forces (the Haqqani faction), and the chief supplier of ammonium nitrate, the principal ingredient in anti-personnel bombs used against Western forces.</p>
<p>We all started into Afghanistan in 2001 in solidarity with the Americans after the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. The Americans largely decamped to Iraq after a year, became mired in the quicksand of nation-building, and then in the even deeper and more hopeless morass of trying to make something out of the gigantic, murderous cesspool of Pakistan. It is time this country recognized its debt to Jean Chrétien for taking a pass on the Iraq debacle &mdash; and I was one who disagreed with him at the time (though I then had no idea the U.S. would try to take over the governance of the country and try to turn it into Oklahoma).</p>
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<p>Although he may have been right in hindsight, he was right for the wrong reason. Prime minister Chrétien &#8220;volunteered&#8221; Canadian military support in Afghanistan to ensure that we could not be expected to help in Iraq (because in the parlous state of the Canadian Forces, it was impossible for us to support more than one overseas campaign). The Canadian troops did magnificent work in Afghanistan, and certainly raised Canada&#8217;s stock with our allies, but we were there &mdash; politically &mdash; to avoid being in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>On the other hand, that may be a feature rather than a bug</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pakistan is trying to conceal the location of its nuclear weapons from US spy satellites, and the concern voiced in this article is that they&#8217;re using low-security techniques to do it. On the other hand, if you&#8217;re actually trying to get nuclear warheads into the hands of terrorists with a certain degree of deniability, this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistan is trying to conceal the location of its nuclear weapons from US spy satellites, and the concern voiced in <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hl_vZqjJHYTQL-3LlinxBrEl8oJQ?docId=CNG.d8a458444a1f0fb688322c8410b26047.431" target="_blank">this article</a> is that they&#8217;re using low-security techniques to do it. On the other hand, if you&#8217;re actually trying to get nuclear warheads into the hands of terrorists with a certain degree of deniability, this is certainly a way to do it:</p>
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<p>Pakistan has begun moving its nuclear weapons in low-security vans on congested roads to hide them from US spy agencies, making the weapons more vulnerable to theft by Islamist militants, two US magazines reported Friday.</p>
<p>The Atlantic and the National Journal, in a joint report citing unnamed sources, wrote that the US raid that killed Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden in May at his Pakistani compound reinforced Islamabad&#8217;s longstanding fears that Washington could try to dismantle the country&#8217;s nuclear arsenal.</p>
<p>As a result, the head of the Strategic Plans Divisions (SPD), which is charged with safeguarding Pakistan&#8217;s atomic weapons, was ordered to take action to keep the location of nuclear weapons and components hidden from the United States, the report said.</p>
<p>Khalid Kidwai, the retired general who leads the SPD, expanded his agency&#8217;s efforts to disperse components and sensitive materials to different facilities, it said.</p>
<p>But instead of transporting the nuclear parts in armored, well-defended convoys, the atomic bombs &#8220;capable of destroying entire cities are transported in delivery vans on congested and dangerous roads,&#8221; according to the report.</p>
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		<title>Pakistan&#8217;s conspiracy theories inhibit real world action</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Strategy Page looks at one of the big problems in getting Pakistan&#8217;s co-operation on security issues: American leaders are dismayed as they keep encountering Pakistani politicians and military officials who believe all their troubles are caused by Indian, American and Israeli conspiracies. Pakistan is full of this stuff, and those who believe it are not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/india/articles/20111021.aspx" target="_blank">Strategy Page</a> looks at one of the big problems in getting Pakistan&#8217;s co-operation on security issues:</p>
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<p>American leaders are dismayed as they keep encountering Pakistani politicians and military officials who believe all their troubles are caused by Indian, American and Israeli conspiracies. Pakistan is full of this stuff, and those who believe it are not eager to consider alternatives. While the Pakistani fears are largely based on fiction, the growing number of Indians killed by Pakistani sponsored (and based) terrorism is very real. There are Pakistanis who understand the reality of all this and some of them are diplomats. But as long as most Pakistani leaders, and most of the Pakistani media, embrace the conspiracy theories, real peace is not likely. But at least the diplomats from each nation can discuss possibilities.</p>
<p>The U.S. constantly points to the continuing presence of Islamic terror groups in Pakistani sanctuaries. That is difficult for the Pakistanis to deny. The major danger here is that if a big attack is made in the United States, and tracked back to a Pakistani sanctuary, this could trigger a public call for war with Pakistan. Even many senior Pakistanis recognize this danger and try to control the terrorists they host. This precarious situation won&#8217;t go away as long as the terrorist sanctuaries (mainly North Waziristan and Quetta) are openly protected by Pakistani leaders. But without admitting anything to the Americans, Pakistan has apparently ordered some Haqqani personnel and bases out of North Waziristan. This might just be Haqqani fleeing an area that American intelligence knew too well, and that might have been under the advice of Pakistani intelligence. The movement of Haqqani personnel, to Afghanistan or elsewhere in the tribal territories, is making life difficult for the many foreign terrorists who find sanctuary (and work) with Haqqani. The desire to impose greater security on the new Haqqani bases means foreign recruits will take a lot longer to be led in. </p>
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		<title>Britain suffered higher proportional casualties than the US in Afghanistan</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2011/10/06/britain-suffered-higher-proportional-casualties-than-the-us-in-afghanistan/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brief item from Strategy Page on the relative casualties suffered by the major allied combatants over the course of the Afghanistan campaign: In ten years of combat in Afghanistan, some 2,700 foreign troops have died. Most (67 percent) were American. The next two nations in terms of combat losses were Britain (14.1 percent) and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brief item from <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20111006.aspx" target="_blank">Strategy Page</a> on the relative casualties suffered by the major allied combatants over the course of the Afghanistan campaign:</p>
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<p>In ten years of combat in Afghanistan, some 2,700 foreign troops have died. Most (67 percent) were American. The next two nations in terms of combat losses were Britain (14.1 percent) and Canada (5.8 percent). Adjusted for population size, Britain suffered five percent more combat deaths than the United States. On the same basis, Canada suffered about 80 percent as many deaths as the United States.</p>
<p>All three of these nations had their troops in the south (Kandahar and Helmand provinces, where most of the heroin came from) or along the southeast border (mainly Pakistan&#8217;s North Waziristan area, long a sanctuary for Islamic terror groups). There were a few other NATO nations, plus Australia, that had small contingents in the south, but most NATO nations put their troops in more peaceful north, with orders to stay out of trouble and avoid casualties. </p>
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		<title>The tight spot Pakistan finds itself in</title>
		<link>http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2011/10/05/the-tight-spot-pakistan-finds-itself-in/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More on the Pakistani situation from Strategy Page: In Pakistan, decades of anti-American and anti-Indian propaganda, and support for Islamic radicalism, has brought the country to the brink of disaster. The U.S. has stopped being discreet and secretive about Pakistani military and intelligence (ISI) attacks on Americans during the last decade. These attacks were played [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the Pakistani situation from <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/india/articles/20111005.aspx" target="_blank">Strategy Page</a>:</p>
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<p>In Pakistan, decades of anti-American and anti-Indian propaganda, and support for Islamic radicalism, has brought the country to the brink of disaster. The U.S. has stopped being discreet and secretive about Pakistani military and intelligence (ISI) attacks on Americans during the last decade. These attacks were played down in the hope that Pakistan could be persuaded to eliminate the pro-terrorist people in the army and ISI. This didn&#8217;t happen. The army and the ISI needed the Islamic radicals, to keep tensions with India high (via Pakistani-backed terror attacks in Kashmir and elsewhere in India.) The army/ISI leaders fear loss of their large share of the national economy if the Indian &#8220;threat&#8221; is viewed more realistically. The political parties, which are corrupt, and often allies of the military, have backed the generals in their opposition to American demands to crack down on Islamic terrorism. Most Pakistanis believe that the United States cannot possibly operate in Afghanistan without the support of Pakistan. This despite vigorous NATO efforts to shift their supply lines from Pakistan to Central Asia. Pakistan believes that possession of nuclear weapons will keep the United States from doing anything drastic, like more raids into Pakistan to destroy terrorists. The May raid to kill Osama bin Laden shows that the U.S. could, and would, do this. Now Pakistan has said it will not shut down Islamic terrorist sanctuaries in North Waziristan (in the northeast) and Quetta (in the southwest). The U.S. says that if the Pakistanis won&#8217;t the U.S. will. Pakistan says that if America tries that, it will mean war. It&#8217;s no secret that the U.S. has made plans to seize Pakistani nuclear weapons, and India has just signed a cooperation treaty with Afghanistan. Pakistanis like to believe that they have America in a corner, but it&#8217;s becoming more likely that it is Pakistan that has painted itself into a corner. Pakistan has long complained of being surrounded by conspiracies and enemies. Now, because of Pakistani support for Islamic terrorism, those fears are about to become true. Pakistan denies any responsibility for this, insisting that it is the victim. That will make no difference in the end, other than to provide some incredulous footnotes in the histories of the late, great, Pakistan. </p>
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		<title>The key to peace in Afghanistan? The Pakistani army and the ISI</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Strategy Page explains why Afghanistan will not be peaceful until the Pakistani army and their local equivalent of the CIA stop meddling: The U.S. and Afghanistan still believe a negotiated peace is possible, but Pakistan, not the Taliban, must be the counterparty. And it&#8217;s not Pakistan the country that must negotiate, but the Pakistani Army [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/afghan/articles/20111003.aspx" target="_blank">Strategy Page</a> explains why Afghanistan will not be peaceful until the Pakistani army and their local equivalent of the CIA stop meddling:</p>
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<p>The U.S. and Afghanistan still believe a negotiated peace is possible, but Pakistan, not the Taliban, must be the counterparty. And it&#8217;s not Pakistan the country that must negotiate, but the Pakistani Army and the ISI (the Pakistani ISI/military intelligence organization). These two organizations have been running their own foreign policy for decades. The army/ISI has gotten rich by gaining control over a large chunk of the national economy and government budget. It&#8217;s all done with coercion, corruption and constant anti-Indian/anti-American propaganda. The Pakistani Army cannot justify its privileged position unless they convince the Pakistani people that there is a major threat out there. So the army/ISI has created fearsome foes. This includes Afghanistan, which they portray as a puppet for India and America and a major threat to Pakistan. Most Afghans reject this, and see the Taliban as a Pakistani tool. While many Afghans appreciate scattered Taliban efforts to reduce corruption, they mainly want less violence. The Taliban has been the major source of violence for nearly two decades, and most Afghans want peace. The Taliban want control, above all else. But now, facing severe combat losses, lower morale and defections, increased terror attacks are believed more for internal purposes (to build Taliban morale) than to weaken the Afghan government.</p>
<p>Afghanistan is looking north, towards Central Asia, for economic growth, and as a safer way to move goods into and out of the country. Pakistan is seen as more of an enemy, and not a reliable economic partner. Central Asia, on the other hand, is more stable, and offers as many economic opportunities. Afghanistan calls this the &#8220;Silk Road Solution&#8221; in memory of the ancient trade route between China and the Middle East (and India), which ran through western Afghanistan. Ocean going European sailing ships put the Silk Road out of business five centuries ago, but the end of the Soviet Union in 1991 has opened Central Asia to more customers and suppliers, including Afghanistan. The Silk Road is returning, as a local economic thoroughfare.</p>
<p>As part of the new approach to Pakistan, the U.S. has revealed that many deaths of American troops along the Afghan border were actually caused by Pakistani troops, not Taliban fighters. These details had been kept quiet for years, to maintain good relations with Pakistan. But now the Pakistani army and ISI are seen as out-of-control, so the gloves are off. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The third part of an interview with Gillespie and Welch, covering libertarian foreign policy ideas:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third part of an interview with Gillespie and Welch, covering libertarian <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/17/thedc-interview-nick-gillespie-and-matt-welch-on-a-libertarian-foreign-policy/#ixzz1SNf5gry8" target="_blank">foreign policy</a> ideas:</p>
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